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post Dec 10, 2004 - 1:13 PM
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I just finished writing a research paper on alternative fuels and in my research I stumbled across this article: http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/...cle_13618.shtml
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post Dec 11, 2004 - 10:25 AM
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Global warming is going to happen regardless who is in office, sorry people dont care about the environment, if y'all havent figured it out yet we live in a society that cares only about themselves first. We're a "Me" group of ppl. Thats the problem ppl now days dont care about others. A person like myself that would put myself in a bad situation to help out a friend is not that common. Sorry. So w/ a me group of ppl they could care less about the env. 200 years down the road.
post Dec 11, 2004 - 1:42 PM
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QUOTE(chucho @ Dec 11, 2004 - 10:25 AM)
Global warming is going to happen regardless who is in office, sorry people dont care about the environment, if y'all havent figured it out yet we live in a society that cares only about themselves first.  We're a "Me" group of ppl.  Thats the problem ppl now days dont care about others.  A person like myself that would put myself in a bad situation to help out a friend is not that common.  Sorry.  So w/ a me group of ppl they could care less about the env. 200 years down the road.
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I agree that a lot of people don't care, but they also don't fully understand the situation. If the government cared to inform the public, people would take the environment seriously. Why doesn't the government push for more research in alternative fuels? The oil industry has supported Bush since he entered politics. He wouldn't say no to an opportunity to drill for more oil in the Arctic. In the article it says what would happen if the ice cap melted b/c of global warming. Instead of supporting alternative fuels that do not contribute to global warming or pollution, Bush wants to keep oil companies in business.
post Dec 12, 2004 - 2:54 PM
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QUOTE(Rider @ Dec 11, 2004 - 11:42 AM)
QUOTE(chucho @ Dec 11, 2004 - 10:25 AM)
Global warming is going to happen regardless who is in office, sorry people dont care about the environment, if y'all havent figured it out yet we live in a society that cares only about themselves first.  We're a "Me" group of ppl.  Thats the problem ppl now days dont care about others.  A person like myself that would put myself in a bad situation to help out a friend is not that common.  Sorry.  So w/ a me group of ppl they could care less about the env. 200 years down the road.
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I agree that a lot of people don't care, but they also don't fully understand the situation. If the government cared to inform the public, people would take the environment seriously. Why doesn't the government push for more research in alternative fuels? The oil industry has supported Bush since he entered politics. He wouldn't say no to an opportunity to drill for more oil in the Arctic. In the article it says what would happen if the ice cap melted b/c of global warming. Instead of supporting alternative fuels that do not contribute to global warming or pollution, Bush wants to keep oil companies in business.
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This is a democracry and thus people vote with their $$$, stop buying SUVs/Trucks, Buy Hybrids/Electric, Dont get pissed off when Chevron opens a Hydrogen Gas station in your neighborhood (People, dont like new things).

For years, energy companies (yes US oil companies) and carmakers have come out with alternative fuel vehicles (natural gas/hydrogen/electric) but the consumer would rather plump up on cheap petrol.

Problem: people like cheap gas, and when gas prices go up to reflect the real envrinonmental/social/political cost people get mad at their representives and senators then they (politicans) in turn press for pro oil policies.

so are you mad about global warming? are you mad about the middle east? are you mad about pollution? Okay simple stop driving gas cars, and dish out the extra cash to buy the more expensive alternative fuels, support the infrastructure of new alternative fuel stations such as hydrogen and natural gas.
post Dec 12, 2004 - 6:02 PM
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QUOTE(coustoe @ Dec 12, 2004 - 3:54 PM)
This is a democracry and thus people vote with their $$$, stop buying SUVs/Trucks, Buy Hybrids/Electric,  Dont get pissed off when Chevron opens a Hydrogen Gas station in your neighborhood (People, dont like new things)[right][snapback]220568[/snapback][/right]


I don't want to get in the middle of this but that hits on a pet peeve of mine. democracy is not synonymous with capitalism or vice versa.

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Posts in this topic
- Rider   Bush and global warming   Dec 10, 2004 - 1:13 PM
- - Supersprynt   How could some of u possibly have voted for this i...   Dec 10, 2004 - 2:29 PM
|- - coustoe   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Dec 10, 2004 - 12:29 PM)H...   Dec 10, 2004 - 2:54 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(coustoe @ Dec 10, 2004 - 12:54 PM)QUOTE...   Dec 10, 2004 - 2:58 PM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   Agreed with supersprynt Supersprynt shoudl be pr...   Dec 10, 2004 - 2:31 PM
- - Uppitycracker   I just hope humans die out before this planet is c...   Dec 10, 2004 - 2:36 PM
- - mr_dude   'publicans tend to direct focus away from envi...   Dec 10, 2004 - 7:05 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(mr_dude @ Dec 10, 2004 - 5:05 PM)'p...   Dec 10, 2004 - 7:44 PM
- - mr_dude   Better watch it or we'll add Canadia to the ax...   Dec 10, 2004 - 7:55 PM
- - Sev408   heres an idea, we wil all be dead by that time tha...   Dec 10, 2004 - 8:21 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(Sev408 @ Dec 10, 2004 - 6:21 PM)heres a...   Dec 10, 2004 - 8:44 PM
- - chucho   Global warming is going to happen regardless who i...   Dec 11, 2004 - 10:25 AM
|- - Rider   QUOTE(chucho @ Dec 11, 2004 - 10:25 AM)Global...   Dec 11, 2004 - 1:42 PM
|- - coustoe   QUOTE(Rider @ Dec 11, 2004 - 11:42 AM)QUOTE(c...   Dec 12, 2004 - 2:54 PM
|- - ghostdog   QUOTE(coustoe @ Dec 12, 2004 - 3:54 PM)This i...   Dec 12, 2004 - 6:02 PM
- - Rider   Would you buy a hybrid that goes 0-60 in 12 second...   Dec 12, 2004 - 4:11 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(Rider @ Dec 12, 2004 - 2:11 PM)Would yo...   Dec 12, 2004 - 5:51 PM
|- - Rider   QUOTE(Uppitycracker @ Dec 12, 2004 - 5:51 PM)...   Dec 12, 2004 - 7:40 PM
- - mr_dude   It can also be said that the US is a representativ...   Dec 12, 2004 - 6:11 PM
- - mr_dude   I think the important question is, what should we ...   Dec 12, 2004 - 8:07 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Natural gas, that's the way to go right now. ...   Dec 13, 2004 - 7:34 AM
- - Supersprynt   In respect to alternate fuel/hybrid cars. They are...   Dec 13, 2004 - 8:10 AM
- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Dec 13, 2004 - 6:10 AM)In...   Dec 13, 2004 - 4:56 PM


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