Body Roll, FWD Roll Options

[CrazyJ]

After reading the now closed "body roll" topic I just want to add that I can make my 94 SSII JDM 2.0 Celica (3sge) drift around a round-a-bout (these simplify big junctions in the uk)...

I was doing about 20mph driving like miss daisy in third gear barely touching the acceleration and my back end came right out whilst on a 2/3 lock of the wheel to the right.... It came out so bad I drifted the last 1/3 of the round-a-bout off to my exit... very cool and extremely scary....any doubters and I will take you for a spin myself (if you live near of course) and er prove it...

Any I was defo driving carefully because the missis was in the car...

I have had the front shocks changed and the anti roll bar bushes since, also waiting for the cv joints to be changed,.. I can still make it do it but have to work harder now.

just for the record.

Cheers

J

[turboinduction]

Yea, I'm with you Blackbullet. My celica is by far the best FF handling car I've ever driven. Wouldn't really slip out stock. I'd have to be heavy on the right foot to cause some understeer (granted, I've been driving forever and I how to control a car). Then with the suspension mods and putting some 19 inch rubber underneath. Hell the car wont slip. On dry payment using techniques to control understeer, I can rival speeds and corners that my old AWD Eclipse would take. All in all, i'm very impressed with the car. Now fun parts -

Dont like bodyroll kids - get sway bars
Wanna turn faster - get a drop and better grip tires
Wanna hold those tires down - get a strut bar in front and rear for fun!
Still need more - Slap yourself, your in a FF


ahhh Kwanza, what are we gonna do. Drifting an FF. God I love this topic. Drifting is a process of braking all the wheels loose on a car but control the speed force and oversteer with the throttle for the REAR wheels and controling the direction with the steering wheel for the front wheels. Even if you break the back end loose on a FF (front engine, front wheel drive for you n00bs), you can only do 2 things. 1. Speed up, spinning the front wheels and having the back end slide a little bit until it reaches enough friction to regain grip and slide back or completely spin you out. 2. Slow down, which will result with both front and rear wheels regaining grip and returning. A FWD "drift" only last 3 or 4 seconds. If you've gone any longer, Inertia is causing the drift, not you. The reason you cant drift a FF is because you cant power the back wheels. Since theres no power back there, the wont be spinning. Since they wont be spinning, they will regain grip! Also a FF car only goes in the direction that the front wheels are pointing. Kindof hard to do drift if you gotta go in the direction of the wheels. Moreorless, you'd understeer and crash. So please, I love my Celica. I like FF's. I even pull that e-brake on snow and whip that rear around sometimes, but I cant drift it. Cant. Period. Done. Fin. End. Credits.

-Ti