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post Dec 6, 2004 - 10:22 AM
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After reading the now closed "body roll" topic I just want to add that I can make my 94 SSII JDM 2.0 Celica (3sge) drift around a round-a-bout (these simplify big junctions in the uk)...

I was doing about 20mph driving like miss daisy in third gear barely touching the acceleration and my back end came right out whilst on a 2/3 lock of the wheel to the right.... It came out so bad I drifted the last 1/3 of the round-a-bout off to my exit... very cool and extremely scary....any doubters and I will take you for a spin myself (if you live near of course) and er prove it...

Any I was defo driving carefully because the missis was in the car...

I have had the front shocks changed and the anti roll bar bushes since, also waiting for the cv joints to be changed,.. I can still make it do it but have to work harder now.

just for the record.

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post Dec 21, 2004 - 9:48 AM
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Yea, I'm with you Blackbullet. My celica is by far the best FF handling car I've ever driven. Wouldn't really slip out stock. I'd have to be heavy on the right foot to cause some understeer (granted, I've been driving forever and I how to control a car). Then with the suspension mods and putting some 19 inch rubber underneath. Hell the car wont slip. On dry payment using techniques to control understeer, I can rival speeds and corners that my old AWD Eclipse would take. All in all, i'm very impressed with the car. Now fun parts -

Dont like bodyroll kids smile.gif - get sway bars
Wanna turn faster - get a drop and better grip tires
Wanna hold those tires down - get a strut bar in front and rear for fun!
Still need more - Slap yourself, your in a FF


ahhh Kwanza, what are we gonna do. Drifting an FF. God I love this topic. Drifting is a process of braking all the wheels loose on a car but control the speed force and oversteer with the throttle for the REAR wheels and controling the direction with the steering wheel for the front wheels. Even if you break the back end loose on a FF (front engine, front wheel drive for you n00bs), you can only do 2 things. 1. Speed up, spinning the front wheels and having the back end slide a little bit until it reaches enough friction to regain grip and slide back or completely spin you out. 2. Slow down, which will result with both front and rear wheels regaining grip and returning. A FWD "drift" only last 3 or 4 seconds. If you've gone any longer, Inertia is causing the drift, not you. The reason you cant drift a FF is because you cant power the back wheels. Since theres no power back there, the wont be spinning. Since they wont be spinning, they will regain grip! Also a FF car only goes in the direction that the front wheels are pointing. Kindof hard to do drift if you gotta go in the direction of the wheels. Moreorless, you'd understeer and crash. So please, I love my Celica. I like FF's. I even pull that e-brake on snow and whip that rear around sometimes, but I cant drift it. Cant. Period. Done. Fin. End. Credits.

-Ti

Posts in this topic
- CrazyJ   Body Roll   Dec 6, 2004 - 10:22 AM
- - Kwanza26   why are you even brining back this subject? Some ...   Dec 6, 2004 - 12:13 PM
- - playr158   ha ha kwanza....... ok since your mostly a noob an...   Dec 6, 2004 - 1:23 PM
- - CrazyJ   Dude, its not my intention to bring it back up. Si...   Dec 7, 2004 - 4:36 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   http://www.tuner-world.com/drivetips_6.html   Dec 9, 2004 - 4:15 AM
- - playr158   lol if your car was used for RALLY then you'd ...   Dec 9, 2004 - 9:43 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Could happen if he hit a pach of gravel, dirt, or ...   Dec 10, 2004 - 12:35 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Dec 10, 2004 - 5:35 ...   Dec 10, 2004 - 1:55 AM
|- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Dec 9, 2004 - 11:55 PM)QUOTE...   Dec 10, 2004 - 2:32 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Dec 10, 2004 - 7:32 ...   Dec 10, 2004 - 1:18 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Drifting is still the "in thing?" I tho...   Dec 10, 2004 - 1:46 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Dec 10, 2004 - 6:46 ...   Dec 10, 2004 - 7:55 PM
|- - RedSunCelica   are you sure the back end was sliding and not the ...   Dec 10, 2004 - 9:18 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   I'm for it. I'd like to see how I race on...   Dec 11, 2004 - 1:10 AM
- - playr158   ok if i remember correctly the RPM at 20 mph in 3r...   Dec 11, 2004 - 2:31 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Come on guys, let him alone. He obviously doesn...   Dec 11, 2004 - 4:33 AM
- - CrazyJ   Some interesting facts in those replies. It could ...   Dec 15, 2004 - 5:15 AM
- - doGGy   here goes my story... At first then i bought my c...   Dec 15, 2004 - 6:41 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(doGGy @ Dec 15, 2004 - 11:41 AM)here go...   Dec 15, 2004 - 12:03 PM
|- - doGGy   I know what you talking about Kwanza. I'v been...   Dec 16, 2004 - 2:01 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(doGGy @ Dec 16, 2004 - 7:01 AM)And youa...   Dec 16, 2004 - 12:14 PM
|- - doGGy   Period. Compleatly true, and there is nothing to a...   Dec 16, 2004 - 12:27 PM
|- - RedSunCelica   QUOTE(doGGy @ Dec 16, 2004 - 10:27 AM)Period....   Dec 16, 2004 - 8:31 PM
- - pimpstarr690   Dude...simple just slap some coil over's and f...   Dec 15, 2004 - 3:03 PM
- - CrazyJ   just to let you all know this issue has now been r...   Dec 20, 2004 - 6:46 AM
- - blackbullet   well as for you guys.. not to be crap talking... i...   Dec 21, 2004 - 3:35 AM
- - turboinduction   Yea, I'm with you Blackbullet. My celica is b...   Dec 21, 2004 - 9:48 AM
- - doGGy   QUOTECant. Period. Done. Fin. End. Credits. Wel...   Dec 21, 2004 - 11:41 AM
- - sous710   haha i drift all the time on dry pavement at 20 mp...   Jul 10, 2008 - 6:46 PM
- - parriehunter   ^^^^^^ how old are you? My mates did in there fwds...   Jul 10, 2008 - 7:49 PM
- - sous710   lol 19   Jul 10, 2008 - 7:50 PM
- - playr158   for digging this thread up and posting that.... y...   Jul 10, 2008 - 10:50 PM
- - chucho   man '04 I havent seen those names in awhile   Jul 10, 2008 - 11:13 PM
- - Kwanza26   Hehehehehehe.... this thread is full of funny   Jul 13, 2008 - 3:08 PM
- - Euphoria   I have a little experience as I had both a front e...   Jul 14, 2008 - 9:30 AM


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