Dec 29, 2004 - 2:28 PM
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ok so most people on here are quick to say "the gt is better"
well it is , stock. but in my opinion, if you do not plan on doing a swap, it might be more beneficial to go for an st. the 7afe has a bigger aftermarket it seems, I think I read somewhere that it responds better to boost , that could be just retarded so feel free to call me out. I think the person who contributes to this the most is kwanza, Ive read his posts a lot and he has an ST and I want to say it could have probably beaten most of the GT's on this site. So what do you all think? In terms of not swapping, just keeping stock or maybe adding a turbocharger, what has the most potential with the most reliability as well |
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Dec 29, 2004 - 4:03 PM
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Nik, it's a matter of exponential growth when you're turboing a car; the difference between a turbo'd ST and turbo GT is exponential every psi you raise. Quite simply, while they only start out 30 or so hp away from each other; every psi increases that seperation.
in my opionion, a turbo'd ST vs turbo'd GT race wouldn't be any closer than a regular ST vs GT, even worse. |
Dec 29, 2004 - 4:08 PM
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QUOTE(shid @ Dec 29, 2004 - 2:03 PM) Nik, it's a matter of exponential growth when you're turboing a car; the difference between a turbo'd ST and turbo GT is exponential every psi you raise. Quite simply, while they only start out 30 or so hp away from each other; every psi increases that seperation. in my opionion, a turbo'd ST vs turbo'd GT race wouldn't be any closer than a regular ST vs GT, even worse. [right][snapback]227861[/snapback][/right] i agree with this statement but i would still like to see it in real life a turbo st and gt 10psi 1/4 mile isnt the st a couple hundred pounds ligther in stock trim? -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Dec 29, 2004 - 4:31 PM
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QUOTE(nik @ Dec 29, 2004 - 9:08 PM) QUOTE(shid @ Dec 29, 2004 - 2:03 PM) Nik, it's a matter of exponential growth when you're turboing a car; the difference between a turbo'd ST and turbo GT is exponential every psi you raise. Quite simply, while they only start out 30 or so hp away from each other; every psi increases that seperation. in my opionion, a turbo'd ST vs turbo'd GT race wouldn't be any closer than a regular ST vs GT, even worse. [right][snapback]227861[/snapback][/right] i agree with this statement but i would still like to see it in real life a turbo st and gt 10psi 1/4 mile isnt the st a couple hundred pounds ligther in stock trim? [right][snapback]227863[/snapback][/right] Only 170 pounds.. Thats 19.1 pounds per hp for the GT, and 23 pounds per hp for the ST; so, actually, the GT is "lighter" |
brianforster st vs gt Dec 29, 2004 - 2:28 PM
thedevilmaycrie hmm well i think id get a st ... actually i am gon... Dec 29, 2004 - 2:31 PM
nik ST Dec 29, 2004 - 2:48 PM
SlowCelica94 hard to say. I dunno how strong the 7a internals a... Dec 29, 2004 - 3:39 PM
nik QUOTE(SlowCelica94 @ Dec 29, 2004 - 1:39 PM)B... Dec 29, 2004 - 3:51 PM
nik ok before everyone and there doggy jump on here an... Dec 29, 2004 - 3:54 PM
SlowCelica94 Really? Impressive. How long you been doing this? ... Dec 29, 2004 - 3:55 PM
SlowCelica94 Also, look at the difference in suspension. The GT... Dec 29, 2004 - 3:59 PM
Jehuty Im still saving for a celica and I've decided ... Dec 29, 2004 - 4:47 PM
pokemeintheeye QUOTE(Jehuty @ Dec 29, 2004 - 9:47 PM)I think... Dec 29, 2004 - 5:02 PM
Jehuty QUOTE(pokemeintheeye @ Dec 29, 2004 - 5:02 PM... Dec 29, 2004 - 5:53 PM
nik i get a little knock at 12psi when i push the car ... Dec 29, 2004 - 4:04 PM
saleeka when Stock the ST's have narrower wheels, no r... Dec 29, 2004 - 4:11 PM
SlowCelica94 Saleeka's right. Even if you put on all the bo... Dec 29, 2004 - 4:20 PM
thedevilmaycrie oooh oooh i have an idea 7agtze 20v bwah hahaha
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pokemeintheeye There really is no better or worst. It all depend... Dec 29, 2004 - 4:55 PM
nik QUOTE(pokemeintheeye @ Dec 29, 2004 - 2:55 PM... Dec 29, 2004 - 5:05 PM
Rjb23 You can't really put a 1z motor in our cars, i... Dec 29, 2004 - 5:29 PM
pokemeintheeye QUOTE(Rjb23 @ Dec 29, 2004 - 10:29 PM)You can... Dec 29, 2004 - 5:43 PM
Kwanza26 I could break it all down... but that'll get t... Dec 29, 2004 - 10:05 PM
saleeka how about the 5S-FE Vs. the 3S-FE? The 5S makes 13... Dec 30, 2004 - 12:17 AM![]() ![]() |
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