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post Jan 9, 2004 - 4:46 AM
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I`m in progress to complete a 7agte in my ST 1994.(Don`t try to change my mind , there a lot of work there is made now). I have a GREDDY E MANAGE + PROFEC e01 as piggyback but I would like to know if I can use my 7afe ecu or I NEED the 4age ecu for this setup ?

There is somebody who try this in a 6th gen celica ?

Thank you for help , and what a NICE site on the 6th gen !

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post Jan 23, 2004 - 2:41 AM
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QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Jan 23, 2004 - 7:22 AM)
actually we're about to do a swap in my ae92 SR5 to a 16V smallport..... the wiring is about 90% the same and what isn't the same can be spliced at the sensor..... a lot of the sensors & whatnot even have the same plug style

also, this gives me the advantage of not having the AFM and running off a MAP sensor

Well... if you swap out the 4afe/7afe then save for a MAP 4AGE conversion... I guess that could work... I'll have to check this out some more... My biggest problem with building a 7AGE hybrid was the afm v.s MAP problem... I don't want to splice harnesses, cause that would just justify me to go all out and swap in a 20V or 3SGTE or something... however, if you go from Map 4afe/7afe then swap in a 4AG then convert to MAP 4AG...it may work. hmmm... *could save me from having to source out an entire parts car...*

I'll still stand by my ECU statements though... ;]


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1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver...

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post Jan 5, 2005 - 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jan 23, 2004 - 2:41 AM)
QUOTE(toyotaspeed_90 @ Jan 23, 2004 - 7:22 AM)
actually we're about to do a swap in my ae92 SR5 to a 16V smallport..... the wiring is about 90% the same and what isn't the same can be spliced at the sensor..... a lot of the sensors & whatnot even have the same plug style

also, this gives me the advantage of not having the AFM and running off a MAP sensor

Well... if you swap out the 4afe/7afe then save for a MAP 4AGE conversion... I guess that could work... I'll have to check this out some more... My biggest problem with building a 7AGE hybrid was the afm v.s MAP problem... I don't want to splice harnesses, cause that would just justify me to go all out and swap in a 20V or 3SGTE or something... however, if you go from Map 4afe/7afe then swap in a 4AG then convert to MAP 4AG...it may work. hmmm... *could save me from having to source out an entire parts car...*

I'll still stand by my ECU statements though... ;]
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Ha! Found it.

Sorry to bump such an old post, but it's got alot of good info, and Kwanza, I was wondering what your updated thought here are? As far as I know, the emanage should actually work for a MAP conversion. I could be wrong. And as far as the 7A ecu needing alot of tuning, that's actually what I WANT to do. I really want to get my hands dirty (er... digitally) and tune my own efi. My only issue is the rev limiter on the 7a ecu. I'd feel stupid paying 300 bucks just to get the rev limit moved.
post Jan 6, 2005 - 2:43 AM
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QUOTE(Jehuty @ Jan 6, 2005 - 3:54 AM)
Ha! Found it.

Sorry to bump such an old post, but it's got alot of good info, and Kwanza, I was wondering what your updated thought here are? As far as I know, the emanage should actually work for a MAP conversion. I could be wrong. And as far as the 7A ecu needing alot of tuning, that's actually what I WANT to do. I really want to get my hands dirty (er... digitally) and tune my own efi. My only issue is the rev limiter on the 7a ecu. I'd feel stupid paying 300 bucks just to get the rev limit moved.
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Hehe... toyotaspeed_90 has actually had great success with his set-up running the old 4AFE ECU. His ECU is modified to redline at 7800 rpms, but he hasn't had any problems with it, infact, he dynoed his engine at something like 110whp. You can e-mail him and ask a bit for more ECU detail, cause he would probably know a bit more than me. He's not active around here anymore, but he's very active elsewhere and is a good source for information regarding 4AGs. Electricals isn't my strongest. As for Greddy eManage, like I said previous, they merely interpret MAP/AFM voltage, TPS, and a few other signals then replace them according to user fuel adjustments. It should work with most models of cars, but will not work with some oddballs and won't work with a lot of older cars. Possibly modifying a 7AFE ECU to run a 7AGE 16V will work, since it's not very different from what toyotaspeed_90 did with his rolla, but it's a different story for a 7AGE 20V if that's the route you choose. I reccomend a smallport 4AG head for any n/a application as will toyotaspeed_90 (most likely).


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"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"

1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver...

1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...

1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be...

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- frotou   7AGTE   Jan 9, 2004 - 4:46 AM
- - doGGy   QUOTE (frotou @ Jan 9, 2004 - 2:46 AM) I`m in prog...   Jan 9, 2004 - 5:00 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (frotou @ Jan 9, 2004 - 9:46 AM) I woul...   Jan 9, 2004 - 5:11 AM
- - frotou   It`s just because in all the site that refer to th...   Jan 9, 2004 - 8:39 AM
- - SpedToe169   Go with a stand alone. By the time you buy the e-...   Jan 9, 2004 - 9:27 AM
- - DustyBurns30   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Jan 9, 2004 - 3:11 AM) QUOTE (fr...   Jan 10, 2004 - 1:32 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (DustyBurns30 @ Jan 10, 2004 - 6:32 PM) hey ...   Jan 10, 2004 - 4:14 PM
- - DustyBurns30   how big of an issue is wiring on a stand alone? ...   Jan 10, 2004 - 8:26 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (DustyBurns30 @ Jan 11, 2004 - 1:26 AM) kwan...   Jan 10, 2004 - 8:39 PM
- - frotou   Kwanza 26 : Well, thank you for respecting me and ...   Jan 11, 2004 - 1:25 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (frotou @ Jan 11, 2004 - 6:25 AM) Kwanza 26 ...   Jan 11, 2004 - 1:45 AM
- - FallenHero   I thought about doing this a while back and figure...   Jan 11, 2004 - 1:59 AM
- - celica3sgte   I'm curious. How much does a project like thi...   Jan 11, 2004 - 3:23 AM
- - frotou   www.sdsefi.com I look at this product and it`s ve...   Jan 11, 2004 - 3:31 AM
- - toyotaspeed_90   actually you DON'T have to get a 4a-ge ecu or ...   Jan 22, 2004 - 1:34 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Jan 22, 2004 - 10:34 AM) a...   Jan 22, 2004 - 6:22 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Jan 22, 2004 - 6:34 PM) ac...   Jan 22, 2004 - 10:07 PM
- - OOBE   For a hybrid like that, you need a Haltech E6K, an...   Jan 22, 2004 - 11:54 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   yes, stock rev limiter is around 6300 or so, but i...   Jan 22, 2004 - 11:58 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Jan 23, 2004 - 4:58 A...   Jan 23, 2004 - 12:43 AM
- - FallenHero   My thougths.... IF you use the 4age ecu, how hard...   Jan 23, 2004 - 1:07 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 22, 2004 - 10:07 PM) My th...   Jan 23, 2004 - 1:51 AM
- - Kwanza26   I'd imagine the reason he wants to use the 7A ...   Jan 23, 2004 - 2:10 AM
- - toyotaspeed_90   actually we're about to do a swap in my ae92 S...   Jan 23, 2004 - 2:22 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Jan 23, 2004 - 7:22 AM) ac...   Jan 23, 2004 - 2:41 AM
|- - Jehuty   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jan 23, 2004 - 2:41 AM)QUOTE...   Jan 5, 2005 - 10:54 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Jehuty @ Jan 6, 2005 - 3:54 AM)Ha! ...   Jan 6, 2005 - 2:43 AM
- - toyotaspeed_90   actually the latemodel ae92 in japan was map senso...   Jan 23, 2004 - 4:48 AM
- - FallenHero   my thought was to fit the 4age with the 7a wiring ...   Jan 23, 2004 - 11:55 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 24, 2004 - 4:55 AM) my tho...   Jan 24, 2004 - 2:08 AM
- - FallenHero   then there would surely be a way to swap over the ...   Jan 24, 2004 - 3:45 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 24, 2004 - 8:45 PM) then t...   Jan 25, 2004 - 8:57 PM
- - FallenHero   where down south???   Jan 25, 2004 - 9:30 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   "down south" from where i live.... i...   Jan 25, 2004 - 11:52 PM
- - frotou   I repeat it ; I will use e manage with the ecu (st...   Jan 29, 2004 - 2:03 AM
- - frotou   My suposition about using the 7afe ecu with the 4a...   Jan 29, 2004 - 2:26 AM
- - Jehuty   Yes, I was planning on a smallport head for this a...   Jan 6, 2005 - 4:06 PM
- - frotou   My experience after one year , go with the 4age e...   Jan 6, 2005 - 4:23 PM
- - frotou   Finally I go stand alone this spring (autronic). T...   Jan 28, 2005 - 8:10 PM
- - Mr2swift   Here is the rule of thumb with any hybrid. You mus...   Feb 1, 2005 - 2:26 PM


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