Dec 30, 2004 - 3:20 AM
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You Guy's know all about weight and power ratio's and stuff like that !
so is a stock GT-4 really any more powerful than stock GT ? A GT-4 has 250 ish bhp ! but the extra weight of the fwd running gear and the extra effort required to drive four wheels, over just two wheels a stock GT (SS III) at 210 ish bhp ! i'm probable so wrong but i think the GT has got more power on the road.. So many guy's out here think the GT-4 four is such a quick car, and are supprised when (with my bad driving and such),there's not much in a head to head with a SS III. I raced one of the lights the other week with no real conclusion due to trafffic and road conditions and care of our cars !!!!! on paper in a straight drag, what are the facts, who will be quickest ?? anyone know ?? -------------------- ![]() Life is for living, and you don't get a second chance Take care now !! |
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Jan 6, 2005 - 12:23 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Jul 20, '04 From Russia, Moscow Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hi eveybody. Thoudht I'll add my 2 cents to this discussion.
First of - you DO feel VVTi kick in. At least I did. At about 5-6K RPM you really feel it GO. Then the specs SS-I/SS-II/SS-III/GT-FOUR Drive: FF/FF/FF/FULL 4WD Transmission: 5 speed manual/5 speed manual/5 speed manual/5 speed manual Engine volume (Cubic sentimeters): 1998 / 1998 / 1998 / 1998 Frame: E-ST202-BLMGK / E-ST202-BLMVF / E-ST202-BLMZF / E-ST205-BLMVZ Price in Tokyo, Yen (x1000) 1813 (~$15100) / 2181 (~$18100) / 2448 (~$20400) / 3302 (~$27500) Dimensions: Exterior: (LengthхWidthхHeight), mm 4435 x 1750 x 1305 / 4435 x 1750 x 1305 / 4435 x 1750 x 1305 / 4420 x 1750 x 1305 Interior: (LengthхWidthхHeight), mm 1735 x 1450 x 1100 / 1735 x 1450 x 1100 / 1735 x 1450 x 1100 / 1735 x 1450 x 1100 Wheel base: mm 2535 / 2535 / 2535 / 2535 Distance between front and rear wheels: mm 1510, 1490 / 1510,1490 / 1510,1490 / 1510,1485 Clearence: mm 145 / 145 / 145 / 145 Weight: kg 1160 / 1200 / 1210 / 1390 Turn radius: m 5.2 / 5.2 / 5.5 / 5.6 Fuel tank volume: liters 60 / 60 / 60 / 68 Engine Volume (cubic centimiters): 1998 / 1998 / 1998 / 1998 Engine type: 3S-FE / 3S-GE / 3S-GE / 3S-GTE Bhp@rpm: 140 ps (102.97 kw) @ 6000 rpm / 200 ps (147.10 kw)@7000 rpm / 200 ps (147.10 kw)@7000 rpm / 255 ps (187.55 kw)@6000 rpm Torque: N*m*(kg*m)@rpm: 19.0 kg*m (186.33 N*m)@4400 rpm / 21.0 kg*m (205.94 N*m)@6000 rpm / 21.0 kg*m (205.94 N*m)@6000 rpm / 31.0 kg*m (304.01 N*m)@4000 rpm Killograms per HP: 8.29 / 6 / 6.05 / 5.45 Engine type Serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve / Serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve / Serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve / Serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve / IC turbo Additional engine info: -- / VVT-i / VVT-i / -- Fuel delivery: EFI / EFI / EFI / EFI Turbo: No / No / No / Turbo with intercooler Fuel type: Unleaded regular gasoline / Unleaded premium gasoline / Unleaded premium gasoline / Unleaded premium gasoline Compression: 9.5 / 11 / 11 / 8.5 Piston diameter: mm 86 / 86 / 86 / 86 Stroke (???): mm 86 / 86 / 86 / 86 Fuel consumption (City), liters/100 km (new car): 7.3 / 7.9 / 7.9 / 9.4 Highway, liters/100 km (new car): Front wheels: 195/65r14 89s / 205/55r15 87v / 205/55r15 87v / 215/50R16 90V Rear wheels: 195/65r14 89s / 205/55r15 87v / 205/55r15 87v / 215/50R16 90V Front brakes: Ventilated disk / Ventilated disk / Ventilated disk / Ventilated disk Rear brakes: Disk / Disk / Disk / Ventilated disk Suspension type: Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring Rear suspension: Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring ABS: yes / yes/ yes / yes LSD: no / no / yes / yes AC: Manual / Full automatic / Full automatic / Full automatic Sorry for my bad english or any mistakes in translation. So as you can all see the GT-FOUR has half a killogram of weight less per HP from its closest competitor the SSIII. So Peter don't worry you have a great car. But we can trade cars if you want |
popstar GT-4 vs GT Dec 30, 2004 - 3:20 AM
blackbullet i think that when the race is on and the turbo sta... Dec 30, 2004 - 3:33 AM
doGGy i knew a guy who owned a GT4 and his brother owns ... Dec 30, 2004 - 3:36 AM
turboinduction QUOTE(popstar @ Dec 30, 2004 - 2:20 AM)You Gu... Dec 30, 2004 - 3:41 AM
doGGy QUOTE1. First things first. Since this site is com... Dec 30, 2004 - 3:47 AM
turboinduction QUOTE(doGGy @ Dec 30, 2004 - 2:47 AM)QUOTE1. ... Dec 30, 2004 - 3:49 AM
doGGy No Ti, you are right... i was wrong ... red top ... Dec 30, 2004 - 4:01 AM
97sccelica eh
who drives stock?
a gt4 is a turbo car, and s... Dec 30, 2004 - 4:12 AM
creis I think its probibly a close race but with good dr... Dec 30, 2004 - 4:15 AM
macavely well being that i have never driven eith a 6gc-GT... Dec 30, 2004 - 5:09 AM
popstar Thanks guy's
it's still not answered t... Dec 30, 2004 - 6:00 AM
doGGy Celicas came ONLY with red top beams engine, black... Dec 30, 2004 - 6:07 AM
popstar Cheers Doggy
where do you get all this info fr... Dec 30, 2004 - 6:12 AM
Jehuty I can think of one big disadvantage to awd taht ma... Dec 30, 2004 - 11:47 AM
turboinduction QUOTE(Jehuty @ Dec 30, 2004 - 10:47 AM)I can ... Dec 30, 2004 - 12:12 PM
Jehuty QUOTE(turboinduction @ Dec 30, 2004 - 12:12 P... Dec 30, 2004 - 10:17 PM
Negative [/quote]
Take the pain? The thing that takes the ... Jan 7, 2005 - 5:56 PM
Kwanza26 I wouldn't worry about launching an AWD car...... Dec 30, 2004 - 1:26 PM
recycle when u go side by side with magic at 150kph and he... Dec 30, 2004 - 2:09 PM
DamDirtyApes QUOTE(recycle @ Dec 30, 2004 - 7:09 PM)when u... Dec 30, 2004 - 2:27 PM
recycle QUOTE(DamDirtyApes @ Dec 30, 2004 - 10:27 PM)... Dec 30, 2004 - 2:35 PM
Magic Guys this is wrong,you are comparing 2 cars that a... Dec 30, 2004 - 4:43 PM
erics1one Anyone have the weight specs for these models we... Dec 30, 2004 - 6:53 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE(erics1one @ Dec 30, 2004 - 11:53 PM)Any... Dec 30, 2004 - 10:36 PM
redtcel QUOTE
2 turboinduction.
i don't know if it wa... Dec 30, 2004 - 7:06 PM
saleeka gt-fours debued in 87 i thought, and all the 4th g... Dec 30, 2004 - 9:12 PM
erics1one So weight reduction on a GT, with a beefed up 3SGT... Dec 30, 2004 - 11:44 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE(erics1one @ Dec 31, 2004 - 4:44 AM)So w... Dec 31, 2004 - 2:13 AM
maikl hi magic NO COMMENT!!!!!... Jan 2, 2005 - 10:08 AM
Mr_E ST205 is significantly *lighter* than a ST185.
An... Jan 4, 2005 - 5:58 PM
popstar Sorry guy's
tipo big time it's a... Jan 6, 2005 - 5:50 AM
Kwanza26 QUOTE(_rz_ @ Jan 6, 2005 - 5:23 PM)Hi eveybod... Jan 6, 2005 - 9:04 PM
popstar QUOTE(_rz_ @ Jan 6, 2005 - 12:23 PM)
Sorry fo... Jan 7, 2005 - 2:56 AM
recycle so from what u are saying an ss2 is faster than ss... Jan 6, 2005 - 1:04 PM
_rz_ QUOTE(recycle @ Jan 6, 2005 - 10:04 PM)so fro... Jan 6, 2005 - 1:12 PM
97sccelica QUOTE(Jehuty @ Dec 30, 2004 - 7:17 PM)QUOTE(t... Jan 7, 2005 - 1:31 AM
Lenny_mc ive got an ss111 and there is no way that it will ... Jan 7, 2005 - 5:08 AM
Lenny_mc @ kwanza - you ever driven a beams? the whole poin... Jan 7, 2005 - 5:15 AM
Kwanza26 QUOTE(Lenny_mc @ Jan 7, 2005 - 10:15 AM)@ kwa... Jan 7, 2005 - 10:45 AM
turboinduction QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jan 7, 2005 - 9:45 AM)QUOTE(... Jan 7, 2005 - 5:40 PM
Lenny_mc the beams motor is a great motor and im sure with ... Jan 7, 2005 - 5:17 AM
Mr_E QUOTE(Lenny_mc @ Jan 7, 2005 - 5:17 AM)
Actu... Jan 7, 2005 - 6:37 AM
popstar Mr E or anyone out there ?
when where the las... Jan 7, 2005 - 7:08 AM
Mr_E 1999 was the last of the ST205s I believe. Post 19... Jan 7, 2005 - 9:39 AM
popstar QUOTE(Mr_E @ Jan 7, 2005 - 9:39 AM)1999 was t... Jan 10, 2005 - 6:16 AM
richgt4 QUOTE(popstar @ Jan 10, 2005 - 11:16 AM)QUOTE... Jan 10, 2005 - 6:40 AM
Negative BTW - VVTi does kick around 4500RPM - even my ... Jan 7, 2005 - 6:10 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE(Negative @ Jan 7, 2005 - 11:10 PM)BTW -... Jan 7, 2005 - 8:11 PM
turboinduction QUOTETake the pain? The thing that takes the pain ... Jan 8, 2005 - 1:51 AM
richgt4 Well that took some time to read through. Happy Ne... Jan 8, 2005 - 8:25 PM
soundmangt4 QUOTEI personally witnessed a brand new WRX break ... Jan 9, 2005 - 6:16 AM
Insanity-74 I`ve gotta agree with soundmangt4, the GT SSIII wo... Jan 9, 2005 - 6:36 AM
Mr_E I actually know very few instances of a ST205 havi... Jan 9, 2005 - 6:52 AM
popstar Thanks Rich Jan 10, 2005 - 7:22 AM
Mr_E I don't know how many 98/99 spec cars there ar... Jan 10, 2005 - 1:17 PM
popstar QUOTE(Mr_E @ Jan 10, 2005 - 1:17 PM)I don... Jan 11, 2005 - 12:54 AM
_rz_ QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jan 7, 2005 - 7:45 PM)QUOTE(... Jan 11, 2005 - 11:14 AM
mmorg3053 No disrespect to any non GT4 owners but to be hone... Jan 13, 2005 - 2:22 PM
Supersprynt Yeah this is true I dont kno why this is debated.
... Jan 13, 2005 - 2:24 PM
Lenny_mc my bad kwanza. i totally misunderstood the vvt-i s... Jan 14, 2005 - 6:30 AM
maikl yes!!!!! it realy does kick ar... Jan 14, 2005 - 3:46 PM
Kwanza26 Whatever makes you guys feel better. You've a... Jan 14, 2005 - 4:00 PM
Hanyo QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jan 14, 2005 - 2:00 PM)Oh we... Jan 14, 2005 - 4:17 PM
Magic Kwanza26 Did you ever drive a 4WD sports car???Fir... Jan 14, 2005 - 4:26 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE(Magic @ Jan 14, 2005 - 9:26 PM)Kwanza26... Jan 14, 2005 - 9:35 PM
Mr_E QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jan 14, 2005 - 9:35 PM) The ... Jan 15, 2005 - 6:14 AM
Magic Kwanza26 my previous cars,ALL JDM and heavy modifi... Jan 15, 2005 - 4:10 AM
Kwanza26 QUOTE(Magic @ Jan 15, 2005 - 9:10 AM)Kwanza26... Jan 15, 2005 - 1:11 PM
recycle Kwanza26 my friend u are talking bull sh it . EVER... Jan 15, 2005 - 6:24 PM
Kwanza26 Hahah... you guys can talk all you want. It doesn... Jan 15, 2005 - 11:56 PM

Mr_E QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jan 15, 2005 - 11:56 PM)and ... Jan 16, 2005 - 9:41 AM
Mr_E QUOTE(recycle @ Jan 15, 2005 - 6:24 PM)
when ... Jan 16, 2005 - 9:57 AM
recycle QUOTE(Mr_E @ Jan 16, 2005 - 5:57 PM)QUOTE(rec... Jan 16, 2005 - 1:45 PM
Mr_E QUOTE(recycle @ Jan 16, 2005 - 1:45 PM)
can u... Jan 16, 2005 - 1:46 PM
spunky393 I don't know why i have the impulse, but i... Jan 15, 2005 - 3:08 PM
Magic for all you GT4 owners lets built an "Army... Jan 15, 2005 - 6:02 PM
recycle and cos u mentioned the short wrc life of st205 le... Jan 15, 2005 - 6:29 PM
recycle but is impossible for a stock fwd celica to overst... Jan 16, 2005 - 3:13 PM
doGGy Lets send this topic to best motoring, and let the... Jan 18, 2005 - 3:07 AM
popstar ok guy's we've got another meet on saturda... Jan 18, 2005 - 8:18 AM![]() ![]() |
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