floor/trunk brace Options

[pistatio56]

has anyone seen a brace like these before


full article--> http://www.team-integra.net/forum/display_...&TopicID=118824

people say they make a huge difference in the Integra and Civic, are they useful in the Celica also?

[Hanyo]

Bigmeanbulldog55, you cant keep defending an idea that you have no proof about. Its pointless argueing. Yes we understand that bracing in a car will help stiffen the unibody, and in the end will help the suspention geometry stay the same during heavy turning. But that doesnt mean that if i put a big metal pipe in my car, that connects the trunk to the one of the bolts on the passanger side seat will help. i quote "Erm. What's that bracing exactly? What is it preventing from flexing?"

[Kwanza26]

The body does flex. Race cars are commonly spot welded and reinforced throughout the entire "BODY" to reduce flex and weak points in the design. As for the picture... it all depends on the car. You can't really make an argument for or against anything unless you know what car you're talking about. When directly reffering to a Celica body, that brace isn't anything dramatic because there aren't any stress points under it. It's really not bracing a place of significance in terms of body flex... Also, it's not a matter of simply bolting a bar to the floor, as the picture demonstartes, but then again, it heavily depends on the car.

Also... roll cages don't neccesarily reduce body/chassis flex. They aren't called "Roll cages" because they're designed to reduce body flex during hard cornering. That's just silly. Roll cages are to support the body when EXTREME weight reduction is done. It helps reinforce the cockpit so the car doesn't crush like a can during a roll-over. It heavily depends on the cage's design, it's mounting points, etc... Increased rigidity is sorta like a nice side-effect.

Just don't assume anything... and bigmeanbulldog makes perfect sense... so those of you who are bringing up things such as "unibody frames" and "random floor bars" are only following the bandwagon. You can't make such an argument unless you know what those bolts are going. Oh... and don't try to simply blame Hondas either. What's the car got to do with anything?