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post Jan 22, 2005 - 3:27 PM
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DONT START YELLING!!! I DID USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION BUT DIDN'T FIND ANY GOOD INFO.

Hello, I am a newbi on this forum and I already have some questoins.
I kinda want to do a swap 4A-GZE or 4A-GE. And I have questions about the swap's.

1) Which engine would you recomend and which one is easyer to swap?
2) What do I need, to do a complete swap? if I use stock tranny.
3) Is it possible to do the wiring on my own? (does the wiring job consists of only lenghtheing the wires?)
4) Is there anything else that I should know.

Thats pretty much it. I did find a lot of people talking about these swaps but none of the threads had a list of parts needed to do the swap.
Thank you very much for any info.


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post Feb 1, 2005 - 2:00 PM
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Who said using an Mr2? Did you notice the 2nd post on this topic when the gentleman said using the Aw11 would be easier. I guess I assumed he was talking about the s/c Mr2 US model. Either way, US model Mr2 or Jdm Mr2 will not be the easier way. Yes this swap is that easy when you consider the fact that everything bolts in but you must rewire. People are not doing this left and right because no one has any documentation on it while attaining a front clip. Put it this way, if Aw11 owners are putting these in their Mr2's left and right and the engine sits in the back so the harness is not exactly desirable, why would it be that much more difficult in a Celica which is front wheel drive. Not to mention the "A" series models would also have the choice of going 7agze which is a project we have finished on my brothers Mr2. Again, this is a fairly new forum which kind of reminds me of the Mr2 boards when we first started. Give it a few years and I can bet that there will be many 3rd gen 3sgte Celica swap owners and 4agze Celica swap owners.

I think when people think of the wire loom they get real nervice. Here is the funny thing that know one really mentions on this forum. Any engine swap you do when you change efi's there is only about 10 wires that must be interfaced and the car will run. Of course there will be others, but if you wire in the Basic Efi requirements your car will start. Perhaps I should take a picture of my Ae92 gze swap into my Aw11. More specifically the ONE plug that has been interfaced, in which I have had my swap for about 6 years now. I also think it would be alot more clear if one could see the engine removed from a clip with loom in hand. Remember, the loom has 3 plugs that go into the ecu. 2 of the plugs are directly fromt the engine and will not be touced. The 3rd one goes up to the dash in which you will cut and interface with your existing Efi. Now obviously you might have a few other things you might need to add like alternator wire as I believe they are added in differently then the US models or you might have to add in your speakers or door signal, inside light, ect..... Keep in mind that this will not stop your car from running.

Again, people are not doing this swap due to lack of knowledge and or others who have performed the swap successfully. There are options available, but that does no good if therea are not people willing to give it a shot. Most important thing in my opinion for an engine swap is, will the engine you are using bolt into place with no fabrication. If the answer is yes then rewiring to your existing efi should be your only concern.

As for the Lsd option on the Ae101, I have yet to see an Ae101 gze that did not have Lsd from the factory, and I have sold dozens over the years. Perhaps you did not get a true Ae101, or you are not for sure as how to tell if you have a factory Toyota Lsd.

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This post has been edited by Mr2swift: Feb 1, 2005 - 11:52 PM

Posts in this topic
- Niskyspy   4A-GZE swap. (Q'S)   Jan 22, 2005 - 3:27 PM
- - thedevilmaycrie   the 4agze swap has never been done before... my ad...   Jan 22, 2005 - 3:41 PM
- - Niskyspy   Uh then I will probably go with 4age cuz I dont wa...   Jan 22, 2005 - 3:47 PM
- - Niskyspy   Do you think there is a way I can do it on my, cuz...   Jan 22, 2005 - 6:34 PM
- - chucho   I know a 4agze swap has been done in the 5th gen. ...   Jan 22, 2005 - 7:32 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Niskyspy @ Jan 22, 2005 - 8:27 PM)1) Wh...   Jan 22, 2005 - 9:45 PM
- - DustyBurns30   do yourself a huge favor and pay for the harness t...   Jan 24, 2005 - 8:35 AM
- - thedevilmaycrie   QUATAR11 IS NOT A PRO DO NOT BE FOOLED MY HIS SHAD...   Jan 24, 2005 - 10:19 AM
- - DustyBurns30   yeah, i don't think qatar is the man to see ab...   Jan 24, 2005 - 8:43 PM
- - Chrobis   best place to ask people isn't here, if your r...   Jan 25, 2005 - 2:46 PM
- - Mr2swift   Perhaps I can chime in on the topic. First off it ...   Jan 31, 2005 - 5:53 PM
- - MomoGST   soo lemme get this straight.. the 101 is a bit les...   Feb 1, 2005 - 2:49 AM
- - FAQdaWorld   the ae101 4agze has the most power, about the lsd,...   Feb 1, 2005 - 3:09 AM
- - Rjb23   QUOTE(Mr2swift @ Jan 31, 2005 - 10:53 PM)Perh...   Feb 1, 2005 - 6:12 AM
- - Mr2swift   Who said using an Mr2? Did you notice the 2nd post...   Feb 1, 2005 - 2:00 PM
- - Rjb23   Sorry, I didn't know the aw11 was an mr2 I was...   Feb 1, 2005 - 6:09 PM
- - 94silverst   I'm gonna do it. My engine blew and I'm go...   Feb 2, 2005 - 12:36 PM
- - Mr2swift   Sounds great, and please make sure you document th...   Feb 3, 2005 - 9:10 PM
- - 94ST2   I have a 94 ST and im thinking about doing the 4ag...   Feb 9, 2005 - 3:03 AM
|- - Mr2swift   QUOTE(94ST2 @ Feb 9, 2005 - 8:03 AM)I have a ...   Feb 9, 2005 - 2:38 PM
- - 94ST2   O yeah for sure thats a very good point and i know...   Feb 10, 2005 - 1:23 AM


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