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post Jan 9, 2004 - 4:46 AM
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frotou

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I`m in progress to complete a 7agte in my ST 1994.(Don`t try to change my mind , there a lot of work there is made now). I have a GREDDY E MANAGE + PROFEC e01 as piggyback but I would like to know if I can use my 7afe ecu or I NEED the 4age ecu for this setup ?

There is somebody who try this in a 6th gen celica ?

Thank you for help , and what a NICE site on the 6th gen !

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post Feb 1, 2005 - 2:26 PM
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Here is the rule of thumb with any hybrid. You must (or should) use the ecu that matches the head. So if you going with a 7age, you should use the ecu from the 4age. Frotou, with your setup perhaps standalone is a better option because it appears as if you did not get the complete loom with accessories and ecu to match the 4age head. For all others reading and want to do the swap as well, be sure to get the head, wireloom, and accessories from the 4ag or 4agze. I am a big fan of piggyback until you must use standalone. Standalone is not something Novices like ourselves should try to get, and shame on all forum members who talk about standalones when they are using the stock ecu and have no experience with them. If you do have a standalone on your application and you mentioned standalone then I am not talking about you. I do not want to debate the standalone situation but If have not configured one, been to the dyno to trust someone you do not know to tune the parameters on your car and you have no idea what the hell he is doing but you are just trusting him, then lets not mention standalone.

Best way to get to a 7agte would be a 4agze head, loom, ecu and accessories. With this you can use a safc for fuel tuning. If you are big on the greddy emanage then I would suggest you use the 4agze head and efi from the US model. If you choose to use the Jdm 4agze with Dli then you will need to wire in a special resistor so that you can subrtract timing. The only issue with the greddy emanage and the dli 4agze is you get a check engine light when you subtract timing. Everything else works fine ie.. add and subtract fuel and add timing.

So sorry to catch the post so late as I would have loved to chime in earlier but I frequent the Mr2 message boards and sometimes catch topics that I can chime on in a bit late. One thing that is a must when doing a 7ag project is to change the stock rods into full floating with a bronze bushing and balance the ENTIRE bottom end. This is the ONLY way to have longevety out of this hybrid as I see so many make the mistake in not modifing the stock rods when they use them, or not balance the entire bottom end as these 2 things are critical with the 7ag hybrid.


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- frotou   7AGTE   Jan 9, 2004 - 4:46 AM
- - doGGy   QUOTE (frotou @ Jan 9, 2004 - 2:46 AM) I`m in prog...   Jan 9, 2004 - 5:00 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (frotou @ Jan 9, 2004 - 9:46 AM) I woul...   Jan 9, 2004 - 5:11 AM
- - frotou   It`s just because in all the site that refer to th...   Jan 9, 2004 - 8:39 AM
- - SpedToe169   Go with a stand alone. By the time you buy the e-...   Jan 9, 2004 - 9:27 AM
- - DustyBurns30   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Jan 9, 2004 - 3:11 AM) QUOTE (fr...   Jan 10, 2004 - 1:32 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (DustyBurns30 @ Jan 10, 2004 - 6:32 PM) hey ...   Jan 10, 2004 - 4:14 PM
- - DustyBurns30   how big of an issue is wiring on a stand alone? ...   Jan 10, 2004 - 8:26 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (DustyBurns30 @ Jan 11, 2004 - 1:26 AM) kwan...   Jan 10, 2004 - 8:39 PM
- - frotou   Kwanza 26 : Well, thank you for respecting me and ...   Jan 11, 2004 - 1:25 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (frotou @ Jan 11, 2004 - 6:25 AM) Kwanza 26 ...   Jan 11, 2004 - 1:45 AM
- - FallenHero   I thought about doing this a while back and figure...   Jan 11, 2004 - 1:59 AM
- - celica3sgte   I'm curious. How much does a project like thi...   Jan 11, 2004 - 3:23 AM
- - frotou   www.sdsefi.com I look at this product and it`s ve...   Jan 11, 2004 - 3:31 AM
- - toyotaspeed_90   actually you DON'T have to get a 4a-ge ecu or ...   Jan 22, 2004 - 1:34 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Jan 22, 2004 - 10:34 AM) a...   Jan 22, 2004 - 6:22 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Jan 22, 2004 - 6:34 PM) ac...   Jan 22, 2004 - 10:07 PM
- - OOBE   For a hybrid like that, you need a Haltech E6K, an...   Jan 22, 2004 - 11:54 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   yes, stock rev limiter is around 6300 or so, but i...   Jan 22, 2004 - 11:58 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Jan 23, 2004 - 4:58 A...   Jan 23, 2004 - 12:43 AM
- - FallenHero   My thougths.... IF you use the 4age ecu, how hard...   Jan 23, 2004 - 1:07 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 22, 2004 - 10:07 PM) My th...   Jan 23, 2004 - 1:51 AM
- - Kwanza26   I'd imagine the reason he wants to use the 7A ...   Jan 23, 2004 - 2:10 AM
- - toyotaspeed_90   actually we're about to do a swap in my ae92 S...   Jan 23, 2004 - 2:22 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Jan 23, 2004 - 7:22 AM) ac...   Jan 23, 2004 - 2:41 AM
|- - Jehuty   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jan 23, 2004 - 2:41 AM)QUOTE...   Jan 5, 2005 - 10:54 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Jehuty @ Jan 6, 2005 - 3:54 AM)Ha! ...   Jan 6, 2005 - 2:43 AM
- - toyotaspeed_90   actually the latemodel ae92 in japan was map senso...   Jan 23, 2004 - 4:48 AM
- - FallenHero   my thought was to fit the 4age with the 7a wiring ...   Jan 23, 2004 - 11:55 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 24, 2004 - 4:55 AM) my tho...   Jan 24, 2004 - 2:08 AM
- - FallenHero   then there would surely be a way to swap over the ...   Jan 24, 2004 - 3:45 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 24, 2004 - 8:45 PM) then t...   Jan 25, 2004 - 8:57 PM
- - FallenHero   where down south???   Jan 25, 2004 - 9:30 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   "down south" from where i live.... i...   Jan 25, 2004 - 11:52 PM
- - frotou   I repeat it ; I will use e manage with the ecu (st...   Jan 29, 2004 - 2:03 AM
- - frotou   My suposition about using the 7afe ecu with the 4a...   Jan 29, 2004 - 2:26 AM
- - Jehuty   Yes, I was planning on a smallport head for this a...   Jan 6, 2005 - 4:06 PM
- - frotou   My experience after one year , go with the 4age e...   Jan 6, 2005 - 4:23 PM
- - frotou   Finally I go stand alone this spring (autronic). T...   Jan 28, 2005 - 8:10 PM
- - Mr2swift   Here is the rule of thumb with any hybrid. You mus...   Feb 1, 2005 - 2:26 PM


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