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post Jan 27, 2005 - 12:32 PM
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Well there is a lot of good info on here and I just want it in one spot i know kwanza and others have talked about it quite a bit so if you could add to this list that would be great.

Some people with good knowledge
DMC, FROTOU, KWANZA, DOGGY, EDO, FALLENHERO,

2zzge rods length 5.429 (wiseco)
7afe rods length 5.217 ( Pauter)

difference .212

a lot of info here about 4age
http://www.needfulthings.net/ostc/4age.htm

this is an idea have them make a connector 7afe to 4age with MAP
http://www.autosportwiring.com/pages/1/index.htm

7age info
http://www.corollaperformance.com/Mods/Eng...GE.html#rayhall

http://te51levin.superjamie.net/7age/

FROTOU the man with the 7agte
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=8586&hl=

good place to ask questions
http://www.club4ag.com/

This post has been edited by nik: Jan 28, 2005 - 12:58 PM


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yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
 
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post Feb 1, 2005 - 2:58 PM
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Ok here is what I think, and you can use my pesonall experience and knowledge if you choose to. My info is based on my hands on with dealing with these engines for many of years. Best thing to do is to find head with loom and all accessories attatched to the loom and ecu from the 4agze or 4age. I prefer the 4agze and you should to because you are going to run boost and the 4agze is quite ready for that. As for the 12 psi on the stock 4agze being your limit is false and I always like to make that correction as it has been floating around forums for years. Be sure to get the AFM as well. With this setup you can use Safc to control fuel or a greddy emanage. You will obviously need to interface the gze loom to your existing Efi. The link you posted with the guy that makes looms might be quite advantagous if he can do something for you affordable as his work looks very clean.

I personally would not be interested in mix matching parts as you get closer to a Mickey Mouse swap vs a dependable daily driver with OEM engine bay configuration. Standalone should be the last thing on your mind for this project trust me. I currently have a 7agze running (my brothers, but I put it together) and he is using the 4agze head and loom complete on 7a block, gze pistons, and stock 7a rods that have been balanced, polished, and bronze bushed so it is now a full floating piston like that of the 4ag/gze.

Not to get you off course of what you are trying to do at all, but why not 7agze? This way you get yourself a complete 4agze with everything much like you would get in a front clip and use the pistons head wireloom ecu and accessories including the s/c. If you choose to turbo down the road then you will have that option to remove the blower and add a turbo. Or heck maybe you want to twincharge. You have many options with the 4agze and you will not have to modify like you will need to modify to get yourself a 7agte, ie exhaust manifold, turbo, downpipe fab, ect. Best bang for your buck and ease of putting a hybrid together would surely be a 7agze. Heck, maybe you might want to upgrade your blower as I have done here. http://upload.3sgtemr2.com/upload/MVC-048S.JPG
That is a twinscrew blower that is a supercharger down low, and has turbo efficiency up top unlike any other blower on the market. Good for 200+ hp at the wheels on a 1.6 and just to let you know a mazda miata 1.8 liter made 285 to the wheels with the exact same blower, and is much more streetable then a turbo. Just food for thought!

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Posts in this topic
- nik   7agte HELP   Jan 27, 2005 - 12:32 PM
- - FallenHero   Here is my contribution. Fallen's info (for...   Jan 28, 2005 - 12:10 AM
- - nik   well im leaving the 7afte and going into 7agte mod...   Jan 28, 2005 - 12:57 PM
- - thedevilmaycrie   you will need the igniton system from the geo... i...   Jan 28, 2005 - 1:50 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(thedevilmaycrie @ Jan 28, 2005 - 11:50 ...   Jan 28, 2005 - 2:51 PM
- - FallenHero   well, it wasn't obd2 becaus that system was ad...   Jan 28, 2005 - 5:03 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(FallenHero @ Jan 28, 2005 - 3:03 PM)wel...   Jan 28, 2005 - 5:43 PM
- - thedevilmaycrie   you HAVE to use the 4age harness and ecu.... and ...   Jan 28, 2005 - 5:54 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(thedevilmaycrie @ Jan 28, 2005 - 3:54 P...   Jan 28, 2005 - 6:10 PM
- - thedevilmaycrie   i beleive 4agze harness and sensors are needed ......   Jan 28, 2005 - 6:24 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(thedevilmaycrie @ Jan 28, 2005 - 4:24 P...   Jan 28, 2005 - 6:28 PM
- - thedevilmaycrie   ummm ad ask fontu (the featured ride ..) he's ...   Jan 28, 2005 - 6:30 PM
- - frotou   Yeah, I'm selling my wiring harness and ecu be...   Jan 28, 2005 - 7:23 PM
- - Kwanza26   Nik... there is no real advantage in using the MAP...   Jan 28, 2005 - 8:54 PM
- - nik   what do you recommend for a MAP sensor?   Jan 31, 2005 - 10:06 AM
- - nik   all 20v are tvis right? can i do a black top ITB w...   Jan 31, 2005 - 1:31 PM
- - FallenHero   20v were not TVIS they were vvt. No 4ag TVIS afte...   Feb 1, 2005 - 10:44 AM
|- - nik   QUOTE(FallenHero @ Feb 1, 2005 - 8:44 AM)20v ...   Feb 1, 2005 - 11:12 AM
- - edo17982   like every engine man....get CR ratio to 9:1 or ev...   Feb 1, 2005 - 12:58 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(edo17982 @ Feb 1, 2005 - 10:58 AM)like ...   Feb 1, 2005 - 1:35 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(nik @ Feb 1, 2005 - 6:35 PM)but will i ...   Feb 1, 2005 - 4:39 PM
- - Mr2swift   Ok here is what I think, and you can use my pesona...   Feb 1, 2005 - 2:58 PM
- - nik   was the gze head direct bolt on? And i'm not g...   Feb 1, 2005 - 4:27 PM
- - Mr2swift   Yes the Gze head is a direct bolt on like the 4ag....   Feb 1, 2005 - 4:34 PM
- - frotou   After 12-14 psi the 4agze ecu read to much air and...   Feb 1, 2005 - 5:04 PM
|- - edo17982   QUOTE(frotou @ Feb 2, 2005 - 12:04 AM)After 1...   Feb 1, 2005 - 5:22 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(frotou @ Feb 1, 2005 - 3:04 PM)After 12...   Feb 1, 2005 - 5:26 PM
- - frotou   The most simple solution for you nik ; big port an...   Feb 1, 2005 - 10:39 PM
|- - Mr2swift   QUOTE(frotou @ Feb 2, 2005 - 3:39 AM)The most...   Feb 2, 2005 - 2:49 AM
- - nik   QUOTE(frotou @ Jan 28, 2005 - 5:23 PM) The ot...   Feb 2, 2005 - 1:35 PM
- - frotou   The jdm gze 90 and before is not dli but afm and a...   Feb 2, 2005 - 4:51 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(frotou @ Feb 2, 2005 - 2:51 PM)The jdm ...   Feb 2, 2005 - 5:32 PM
- - Mr2swift   You can not retard the timing on a map based gze w...   Feb 2, 2005 - 7:07 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(Mr2swift @ Feb 2, 2005 - 5:07 PM)You ca...   Feb 3, 2005 - 10:09 AM
- - frotou   If you talk about my wiring on ebay, yes I include...   Feb 3, 2005 - 4:52 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(frotou @ Feb 3, 2005 - 2:52 PM)If you t...   Feb 3, 2005 - 5:15 PM
- - nik   well it started i bought the head 4agze big port n...   Feb 14, 2005 - 11:49 AM
- - nik   does topshelfracing still do wiring? AE92 to 6th g...   Feb 14, 2005 - 12:29 PM
- - FallenHero   http://www.topshelfracing.com/ Home page says no,...   Feb 14, 2005 - 4:57 PM
- - nik   i think i might have to go stand alone.   Feb 14, 2005 - 5:07 PM
- - thedevilmaycrie   im gonna talk to my friend and see if i can get hi...   Feb 14, 2005 - 5:32 PM
- - nik   QUOTE(thedevilmaycrie @ Feb 14, 2005 - 3:32 P...   Feb 14, 2005 - 5:40 PM


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