Jan 27, 2005 - 12:32 PM
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Well there is a lot of good info on here and I just want it in one spot i know kwanza and others have talked about it quite a bit so if you could add to this list that would be great.
Some people with good knowledge DMC, FROTOU, KWANZA, DOGGY, EDO, FALLENHERO, 2zzge rods length 5.429 (wiseco) 7afe rods length 5.217 ( Pauter) difference .212 a lot of info here about 4age http://www.needfulthings.net/ostc/4age.htm this is an idea have them make a connector 7afe to 4age with MAP http://www.autosportwiring.com/pages/1/index.htm 7age info http://www.corollaperformance.com/Mods/Eng...GE.html#rayhall http://te51levin.superjamie.net/7age/ FROTOU the man with the 7agte http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=8586&hl= good place to ask questions http://www.club4ag.com/ This post has been edited by nik: Jan 28, 2005 - 12:58 PM -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Feb 1, 2005 - 2:58 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Sep 28, '04 From California Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ok here is what I think, and you can use my pesonall experience and knowledge if you choose to. My info is based on my hands on with dealing with these engines for many of years. Best thing to do is to find head with loom and all accessories attatched to the loom and ecu from the 4agze or 4age. I prefer the 4agze and you should to because you are going to run boost and the 4agze is quite ready for that. As for the 12 psi on the stock 4agze being your limit is false and I always like to make that correction as it has been floating around forums for years. Be sure to get the AFM as well. With this setup you can use Safc to control fuel or a greddy emanage. You will obviously need to interface the gze loom to your existing Efi. The link you posted with the guy that makes looms might be quite advantagous if he can do something for you affordable as his work looks very clean.
I personally would not be interested in mix matching parts as you get closer to a Mickey Mouse swap vs a dependable daily driver with OEM engine bay configuration. Standalone should be the last thing on your mind for this project trust me. I currently have a 7agze running (my brothers, but I put it together) and he is using the 4agze head and loom complete on 7a block, gze pistons, and stock 7a rods that have been balanced, polished, and bronze bushed so it is now a full floating piston like that of the 4ag/gze. Not to get you off course of what you are trying to do at all, but why not 7agze? This way you get yourself a complete 4agze with everything much like you would get in a front clip and use the pistons head wireloom ecu and accessories including the s/c. If you choose to turbo down the road then you will have that option to remove the blower and add a turbo. Or heck maybe you want to twincharge. You have many options with the 4agze and you will not have to modify like you will need to modify to get yourself a 7agte, ie exhaust manifold, turbo, downpipe fab, ect. Best bang for your buck and ease of putting a hybrid together would surely be a 7agze. Heck, maybe you might want to upgrade your blower as I have done here. http://upload.3sgtemr2.com/upload/MVC-048S.JPG That is a twinscrew blower that is a supercharger down low, and has turbo efficiency up top unlike any other blower on the market. Good for 200+ hp at the wheels on a 1.6 and just to let you know a mazda miata 1.8 liter made 285 to the wheels with the exact same blower, and is much more streetable then a turbo. Just food for thought! Ron (951) 283-3778 Motors Unlimited |
nik 7agte HELP Jan 27, 2005 - 12:32 PM
FallenHero Here is my contribution.
Fallen's info (for... Jan 28, 2005 - 12:10 AM
nik well im leaving the 7afte and going into 7agte mod... Jan 28, 2005 - 12:57 PM
thedevilmaycrie you will need the igniton system from the geo... i... Jan 28, 2005 - 1:50 PM
nik QUOTE(thedevilmaycrie @ Jan 28, 2005 - 11:50 ... Jan 28, 2005 - 2:51 PM
FallenHero well, it wasn't obd2 becaus that system was ad... Jan 28, 2005 - 5:03 PM
nik QUOTE(FallenHero @ Jan 28, 2005 - 3:03 PM)wel... Jan 28, 2005 - 5:43 PM
thedevilmaycrie you HAVE to use the 4age harness and ecu.... and ... Jan 28, 2005 - 5:54 PM
nik QUOTE(thedevilmaycrie @ Jan 28, 2005 - 3:54 P... Jan 28, 2005 - 6:10 PM
thedevilmaycrie i beleive 4agze harness and sensors are needed ...... Jan 28, 2005 - 6:24 PM
nik QUOTE(thedevilmaycrie @ Jan 28, 2005 - 4:24 P... Jan 28, 2005 - 6:28 PM
thedevilmaycrie ummm ad ask fontu (the featured ride ..) he's ... Jan 28, 2005 - 6:30 PM
frotou Yeah, I'm selling my wiring harness and ecu be... Jan 28, 2005 - 7:23 PM
Kwanza26 Nik... there is no real advantage in using the MAP... Jan 28, 2005 - 8:54 PM
nik what do you recommend for a MAP sensor? Jan 31, 2005 - 10:06 AM
nik all 20v are tvis right? can i do a black top ITB w... Jan 31, 2005 - 1:31 PM
FallenHero 20v were not TVIS they were vvt. No 4ag TVIS afte... Feb 1, 2005 - 10:44 AM
nik QUOTE(FallenHero @ Feb 1, 2005 - 8:44 AM)20v ... Feb 1, 2005 - 11:12 AM
edo17982 like every engine man....get CR ratio to 9:1 or ev... Feb 1, 2005 - 12:58 PM
nik QUOTE(edo17982 @ Feb 1, 2005 - 10:58 AM)like ... Feb 1, 2005 - 1:35 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE(nik @ Feb 1, 2005 - 6:35 PM)but will i ... Feb 1, 2005 - 4:39 PM
nik was the gze head direct bolt on? And i'm not g... Feb 1, 2005 - 4:27 PM
Mr2swift Yes the Gze head is a direct bolt on like the 4ag.... Feb 1, 2005 - 4:34 PM
frotou After 12-14 psi the 4agze ecu read to much air and... Feb 1, 2005 - 5:04 PM
edo17982 QUOTE(frotou @ Feb 2, 2005 - 12:04 AM)After 1... Feb 1, 2005 - 5:22 PM
nik QUOTE(frotou @ Feb 1, 2005 - 3:04 PM)After 12... Feb 1, 2005 - 5:26 PM
frotou The most simple solution for you nik ; big port an... Feb 1, 2005 - 10:39 PM
Mr2swift QUOTE(frotou @ Feb 2, 2005 - 3:39 AM)The most... Feb 2, 2005 - 2:49 AM
nik QUOTE(frotou @ Jan 28, 2005 - 5:23 PM)
The ot... Feb 2, 2005 - 1:35 PM
frotou The jdm gze 90 and before is not dli but afm and a... Feb 2, 2005 - 4:51 PM
nik QUOTE(frotou @ Feb 2, 2005 - 2:51 PM)The jdm ... Feb 2, 2005 - 5:32 PM
Mr2swift You can not retard the timing on a map based gze w... Feb 2, 2005 - 7:07 PM
nik QUOTE(Mr2swift @ Feb 2, 2005 - 5:07 PM)You ca... Feb 3, 2005 - 10:09 AM
frotou If you talk about my wiring on ebay, yes I include... Feb 3, 2005 - 4:52 PM
nik QUOTE(frotou @ Feb 3, 2005 - 2:52 PM)If you t... Feb 3, 2005 - 5:15 PM
nik well it started i bought the head 4agze big port n... Feb 14, 2005 - 11:49 AM
nik does topshelfracing still do wiring?
AE92 to 6th g... Feb 14, 2005 - 12:29 PM
FallenHero http://www.topshelfracing.com/
Home page says no,... Feb 14, 2005 - 4:57 PM
nik i think i might have to go stand alone. Feb 14, 2005 - 5:07 PM
thedevilmaycrie im gonna talk to my friend and see if i can get hi... Feb 14, 2005 - 5:32 PM
nik QUOTE(thedevilmaycrie @ Feb 14, 2005 - 3:32 P... Feb 14, 2005 - 5:40 PM![]() ![]() |
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