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post Apr 14, 2005 - 9:14 PM
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Whats up guys. Ok my friend is selling a turbo for like $100. I have a '95 ST, and not alot of money, but this kid i no said that u can still put it on without an intercooler and pipes and **** for now at least but not to wait like years u no. I'm wondering if hes right and i can just buy the turbo and weld it on. Is that right? If so what other things would i have to get right now, but i want the littest that i can cause i dont have like any money, like if i dont need it now then skip it. Aight thanks for the help. peace. -john
 
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post Apr 16, 2005 - 12:40 AM
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QUOTE(GT4WRC @ Apr 16, 2005 - 12:14 AM)
QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Apr 15, 2005 - 5:51 PM)
I thought I might equal the boost of a small turbo or supercharger.  You know, like 1-3 pounds of boost.  I just might try that boost/vac gauge for the heck of it.  The hole thing just doesn't sound completely clear and rgiht to me.  I feel like there's more to this story somewere.  I'm not saying in any way that I don't believe you.  I just want to know exactly how much boost/vac I'm running with this thing.
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Snowballs chance in hell comes to mind. rolleyes.gif
You will not create a postive pressure in the inlet manifold full stop. Even if you were able to create 2 - 3psi, then your engine management system will be totally confused as it is not designed to sense +ve pressure. As a result, you will run a lean mixture which will cause you to lose power and potentially cause internal damage.
When running full throttle, you will create a huge negative effect in the inlet manifold due to the 'sucking' effect of a nasp engine (Take your air filter pipe off with the motor running and stick your hand over the end of the inlet pipe and you'll see what I mean). To create +ve pressure, you will first need to overcome this -ve pressure and then, start creating a +ve one. It simply is not possible to do unless you run a turbo or supercharger. Even these electric superchargers they seel on eBay are a crock of sh1t. THEY DO NOT WORK.
If you can create a proven +ve pressure in your inlet manifold by simply using a ram type effect intake pipe on your Celica, I'll give you my GT-FOUR. Heck, I'll even pay for the shipping too biggrin.gif

Car manufacturers spend billions eachy year on R+D. You'd think with that sort of budget they'd have latched onto this ram effect if it actually worked? wink.gif
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I'll take that bet. I know I will win too. I'm sick of people talking to me like I'm some kind of retard. I have a lot more experence than most of people who are trying to give me advice. Don't think I don't know how and engine works. I've modified my share of cars so far. This particular issue is one I have always been interested in. And as for your question on why car manufatures don't do this, they do. Haven't you ever heard of the Ram-Air Firebird? and I have also been under the hood of the newer Grand Prix's, and they have a similar system. Again, anyone who want's to test my car knowledge, your more than welcome, don't talk to me like I'm stupid.

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- Celica_Kid95st   Turbo   Apr 14, 2005 - 9:14 PM
- - StreetRacing10PSI   all u would need is the exhaust manifold, turbo, p...   Apr 14, 2005 - 9:38 PM
- - OrbitalGT95   QUOTE(Celica_Kid95st @ Apr 15, 2005 - 2:14 AM...   Apr 14, 2005 - 9:49 PM
- - 97sccelica   with the way a turbo fits in the celica engine bay...   Apr 14, 2005 - 9:53 PM
- - Consynx   does the turbo have a wastegate?   Apr 14, 2005 - 10:15 PM
- - ummmx2   dont forget injectors and bov   Apr 15, 2005 - 1:41 AM
- - OrbitalGT95   see what i mean john, lol...my wallet is afraid of...   Apr 15, 2005 - 6:48 AM
- - nik   i can give you a list of everything you need plus ...   Apr 15, 2005 - 9:08 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   You don't need a new fuel pump, or new injecto...   Apr 15, 2005 - 10:38 AM
- - thedevilmaycrie   big- you do need a new fuel pump... just like run...   Apr 15, 2005 - 10:41 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   I just had a buddy of mine who put a supercharger ...   Apr 15, 2005 - 10:47 AM
- - ummmx2   air intakes are MUCH different than forced inducti...   Apr 15, 2005 - 11:07 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(ummmx2 @ Apr 15, 2005 - 12:07 PM)air in...   Apr 15, 2005 - 11:14 AM
- - thedevilmaycrie   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Apr 15, 2005 - 7:47 ...   Apr 15, 2005 - 12:11 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(thedevilmaycrie @ Apr 15, 2005 - 1:11 P...   Apr 15, 2005 - 1:00 PM
|- - Doge   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Apr 15, 2005 - 11:00...   Apr 15, 2005 - 1:16 PM
- - thedevilmaycrie   doge- the scoop may not equal or come close to a t...   Apr 15, 2005 - 2:26 PM
- - nik   i'll put it into simple terms your motor will ...   Apr 15, 2005 - 2:31 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(thedevilmaycrie @ Apr 15, 2005 - 3:26 P...   Apr 15, 2005 - 5:51 PM
|- - GT4WRC   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Apr 15, 2005 - 5:51 ...   Apr 15, 2005 - 11:14 PM
- - thedevilmaycrie   big- by all means please try it and let us know th...   Apr 15, 2005 - 5:55 PM
- - CelicaST18   I have a boost/vac guage in my celica, no turbo ye...   Apr 15, 2005 - 11:07 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(GT4WRC @ Apr 16, 2005 - 12:14 AM)QUOTE(...   Apr 16, 2005 - 12:40 AM
- - Hanyo   yes ram air does work.. here is an article about i...   Apr 16, 2005 - 1:37 AM
|- - GT4WRC   QUOTE(Hanyo @ Apr 16, 2005 - 1:37 AM)You dont...   Apr 16, 2005 - 1:40 AM
- - GT4WRC   I think an F1 car will be able to go just a teeny ...   Apr 16, 2005 - 1:38 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   GT4WRC, when will you be shipping that? or do I a...   Apr 16, 2005 - 1:48 AM
- - thedevilmaycrie   stop agruing and show me some numbers... till ther...   Apr 16, 2005 - 2:06 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   ^^lol, yeah, good point. I just get mad at people...   Apr 16, 2005 - 4:32 AM
- - prpnum1   I HAAAAD to bump this up. Where's the results ...   Apr 18, 2005 - 5:51 PM
- - playr158   ok i ran a forced intake it does make a differenc...   Apr 18, 2005 - 7:24 PM
- - bloodrain   just remember the old saying, you get what you pay...   Apr 18, 2005 - 8:14 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   I'm working on a boost gauge right now. I nee...   Apr 18, 2005 - 8:21 PM
- - Consynx   im not reading all of these, i just want to add so...   Apr 18, 2005 - 8:43 PM
- - CelicaST18   Regular atmospheric pressure at sea level is 14.7 ...   May 3, 2005 - 8:37 AM


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