toyota VS honda, stock -> turbo Options

[Hanyo]

how come honda engines seem to have more power and boost more compaired to toyota engines. Well to be more specific, the b18 VS the 7afe.

I've heard earlier, under boost conditions the variable valve timing actually hinders performance.

so why does a supercharge b18 engine at 6psi make 190 whp with no aftermarket fuel management?
where as a 7afe only can make 170 whp with a turbo and all the dooo dads? ( i dont remember how much boost nik was using.)


it just doesn't make sense. 7afe and b18 both have 1.8 liter engines. And the 7afe head is suppose to be a good turbo head?

[Anub1s]

Guys Honda knows what they are doing with their engines, they can make a performance engine that gets better gas mileage than an economy engine built by Toyota. Its all in engine design, Honda simply makes them better. Better heads, blocks, cam design's, pistons, rods..etc. I will always like Toyota more than Honda, but plain and simple Honda has Toyota beat in the car department, when you start talking trucks, Toyota has it hands down. Stupid Ridgeline.

Look up the new CTD-i engine from Honda, if thats not well engineered I don't know what is. Crazy stuff can be achieved by Honda's, Toyota's can do it as well but you need to have specific engines. i.e. S 3S-GTE or 2JZ-GTE to make high amounts of horsepower.

Honda's can make lots of power out of the lowest end engines. It's nuts, they simply flow better and are better designed. Now I'm being redundant so I'm going to stop.