toyota VS honda, stock -> turbo Options

[Hanyo]

how come honda engines seem to have more power and boost more compaired to toyota engines. Well to be more specific, the b18 VS the 7afe.

I've heard earlier, under boost conditions the variable valve timing actually hinders performance.

so why does a supercharge b18 engine at 6psi make 190 whp with no aftermarket fuel management?
where as a 7afe only can make 170 whp with a turbo and all the dooo dads? ( i dont remember how much boost nik was using.)


it just doesn't make sense. 7afe and b18 both have 1.8 liter engines. And the 7afe head is suppose to be a good turbo head?

[Hanyo]

let move out from the performance engine topic, because its gonna cause a mess of this discusion with whois performance engine is better.. ( B16 vs 4age .. ect)

its stricty the D16 vs the 7AFE.


the D16 non-vtec can make 115hp, with 110 tq @ 4500 RPM ( 97 civic HX coupe) and gets 34 city 38 highway mpg

the 7afe can make 105 hp, with 110 tq with 27 city 34 mpg highway mpg.


Both these engine have around the same hp, both these engines are econony engines.

YET the D16 can make more power when boosted with a SOHC?
The 7afe has more displacement and a DOHC, yet it cant make more power.