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post Apr 17, 2005 - 3:27 AM
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how come honda engines seem to have more power and boost more compaired to toyota engines. Well to be more specific, the b18 VS the 7afe.

I've heard earlier, under boost conditions the variable valve timing actually hinders performance.

so why does a supercharge b18 engine at 6psi make 190 whp with no aftermarket fuel management?
where as a 7afe only can make 170 whp with a turbo and all the dooo dads? ( i dont remember how much boost nik was using.)


it just doesn't make sense. 7afe and b18 both have 1.8 liter engines. And the 7afe head is suppose to be a good turbo head?
 
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post Apr 19, 2005 - 6:06 AM
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well first of all, you guys keep saying turbo this, supercharger that, if your gana compare them you gata be spacific every turbo is diff. a turbo that you would put on a honda is not gana be the same as one you would put on a toyota, you gata be spacific, you can put a tiny little turbo on a b16 and get pretty good results, but if you put a big one on it the results would suck because the little motor just cant push it. but if you put a tiny little turbo on a much bigger toyota motor then the results will probilby suck because its not enough, if you put a bigger turbo on it then your results will be better.

the motors your all talking about are very diff. and each one can give pretty good results but only if you put on parts that are right for it.

I like how a motor that toyota maid 10 years ago is still far better then thoes honda put out only a few years ago.


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- Hanyo   toyota VS honda   Apr 17, 2005 - 3:27 AM
- - Mike   ahem... 3s-gte.... 700whp... 2jz-gte... infinity r...   Apr 17, 2005 - 4:03 AM
- - Hanyo   i know i know.. there are some motors built to mak...   Apr 17, 2005 - 5:10 AM
- - StreetRacing10PSI   the valves on the b16 and b 18's on hondas are...   Apr 17, 2005 - 7:00 AM
- - StreetRacing10PSI   and nik was runing 9.5 PSI on his kit, and ill be ...   Apr 17, 2005 - 7:01 AM
- - Hanyo   i understand how the the B series engines from hon...   Apr 17, 2005 - 7:05 AM
- - Digndoug   the biggist thing .. That the 7afe has a slave cam...   Apr 17, 2005 - 9:33 AM
- - 95gtschick   the d16 engine can make a whole lot more than 200w...   Apr 17, 2005 - 9:49 AM
- - thedevilmaycrie   ok doing a b series honda engine against the 7afe ...   Apr 17, 2005 - 10:55 AM
- - Rjb23   B series is a performance enging, where as the a s...   Apr 17, 2005 - 11:45 AM
|- - ghostdog   QUOTE(Rjb23 @ Apr 17, 2005 - 12:45 PM)B serie...   Apr 17, 2005 - 12:06 PM
|- - Rjb23   QUOTE(gh0st_d0g @ Apr 17, 2005 - 5:06 PM)QUOT...   Apr 18, 2005 - 1:23 PM
- - Kwanza26   I could tell you guys why... but It would really b...   Apr 17, 2005 - 12:40 PM
- - Anub1s   Guys Honda knows what they are doing with their en...   Apr 17, 2005 - 1:19 PM
- - Blakout16   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Apr 17, 2005 - 9:40 AM)I cou...   Apr 17, 2005 - 2:11 PM
- - 97sccelica   1. more R&D has been put into extracting power...   Apr 17, 2005 - 10:42 PM
- - Hanyo   let move out from the performance engine topic, be...   Apr 17, 2005 - 11:03 PM
- - saleeka   Also dosent the A series have its roots in the ear...   Apr 17, 2005 - 11:06 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   I think it has a lot to do with the close cams and...   Apr 17, 2005 - 11:26 PM
- - Hanyo   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Apr 17, 2005 - 9:26 ...   Apr 18, 2005 - 5:01 AM
- - darksecret   I might be wrong on this but the last time I pulle...   Apr 18, 2005 - 10:20 AM
- - Consynx   i'd just guess it's the honda is more acce...   Apr 18, 2005 - 10:33 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(hanyo @ Apr 18, 2005 - 11:20 AM)but sca...   Apr 18, 2005 - 11:25 AM
- - nik   ok if you want to do a 7afe vs b-series 1.honda d...   Apr 18, 2005 - 1:53 PM
- - Kwanza26   Here's a simple way to look at it... more hors...   Apr 19, 2005 - 2:32 AM
|- - darksecret   [/quote] There's only one cam... but there...   Apr 19, 2005 - 9:18 AM
- - creis   well first of all, you guys keep saying turbo this...   Apr 19, 2005 - 6:06 AM
- - Consynx   Kwanza, just to add to you for those who are confu...   Apr 19, 2005 - 9:23 AM


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