Apr 25, 2005 - 3:03 PM
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Hey everybody!
I need some help. I'm looking for aftermarket potential on the 20v silvertop. Something other than "Blitz turbo" and "why not blacktop." Because I cant afford the Blitz turbo and the blacktop is weak IMO after doing research. I need something like internals, manifolds, etc. Any help is appriciated. -Ti |
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Apr 28, 2005 - 7:04 AM
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what would you do for intake on a 20v boosted?
-Ti |
Apr 28, 2005 - 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(turboinduction @ Apr 28, 2005 - 12:04 PM) what would you do for intake on a 20v boosted? -Ti [right][snapback]279372[/snapback][/right] You need to build a custom intake plenum... basically a little box to cover the throttle bodies. The stock one is pretty flimsy. The intake plenum is the box that covers the throttles and has "4 throttle" written on it... just in case you're not sure... ;] IMO, the 20V is a better boost engine because everything about the head design is geared towards induction. With 3 intake valves, it has more overall valve surface than a 16V and it has ITBs... the ultimate in EFI intake systems. -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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Apr 28, 2005 - 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Apr 28, 2005 - 9:26 AM) QUOTE(turboinduction @ Apr 28, 2005 - 12:04 PM) what would you do for intake on a 20v boosted? -Ti [right][snapback]279372[/snapback][/right] You need to build a custom intake plenum... basically a little box to cover the throttle bodies. The stock one is pretty flimsy. The intake plenum is the box that covers the throttles and has "4 throttle" written on it... just in case you're not sure... ;] IMO, the 20V is a better boost engine because everything about the head design is geared towards induction. With 3 intake valves, it has more overall valve surface than a 16V and it has ITBs... the ultimate in EFI intake systems. [right][snapback]279472[/snapback][/right] Intake plenum? ITB's? 4 throttle? What ever do you mean? I figured I'd go custom, but I was hoping for the "oh ti, geez... heres a link to buy a new stronger one for 20 bucks!" Gotta try. Also, with your 4AGE knowledge... what do you think max boost on stock internals. I'd figure on a silvertop, I'd be safe at 6/7. But I'm curious if 8-10 has worked for people. Any input is much appriciated. -Ti |
Apr 28, 2005 - 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(turboinduction @ Apr 28, 2005 - 3:59 PM) Intake plenum? ITB's? 4 throttle? What ever do you mean? I figured I'd go custom, but I was hoping for the "oh ti, geez... heres a link to buy a new stronger one for 20 bucks!" Gotta try. Also, with your 4AGE knowledge... what do you think max boost on stock internals. I'd figure on a silvertop, I'd be safe at 6/7. But I'm curious if 8-10 has worked for people. Any input is much appriciated. -Ti [right][snapback]279492[/snapback][/right] =P Silvertop has nearly identical bottom-end parts to the 4AGZE. The rods are slightly reworked and lightened on the silvertop, and it has 20V pistons... but most all else is the same. With 4AGZ pistons, I can see safe boosting at around 12-15 psi. With stock 20V pistons, I wouldn't try more than 8... Also... Todaracing.com does list 20V stuff. I think they call it AE101/111 5 valve or something like. They have pistons, cams, cam gears, etc. -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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turboinduction 4AGE 20v Apr 25, 2005 - 3:03 PM
Coomer There's a huge aftermarket for all 4A-GE motor... Apr 25, 2005 - 3:15 PM
Coomer By the way, if you do put in the 4A-GZE pistons, y... Apr 25, 2005 - 3:28 PM
FallenHero Were you looking to go NA?
If so, find a nice hea... Apr 25, 2005 - 7:56 PM
Coomer QUOTE(FallenHero @ Apr 25, 2005 - 5:56 PM)Wer... Apr 25, 2005 - 9:20 PM
turboinduction Thanks for all the help guys. I'd like to run... Apr 25, 2005 - 9:29 PM
FallenHero QUOTE(turboinduction @ Apr 25, 2005 - 7:29 PM... Apr 26, 2005 - 12:05 AM
Coomer You can't easily get 180-200 whp N/A out of a ... Apr 26, 2005 - 12:15 AM
turboinduction QUOTE(Coomer @ Apr 25, 2005 - 11:15 PM)You ca... Apr 26, 2005 - 6:32 AM
FallenHero Youre working on a AW11? I yern for such a projec... Apr 26, 2005 - 10:39 AM
turboinduction QUOTE(FallenHero @ Apr 26, 2005 - 9:39 AM)You... Apr 26, 2005 - 8:21 PM
FallenHero nice.
Build yourself a smallport 16valve and bo... Apr 26, 2005 - 10:25 PM
turboinduction QUOTE(FallenHero @ Apr 26, 2005 - 9:25 PM)nic... Apr 26, 2005 - 10:44 PM
turboinduction QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Apr 28, 2005 - 10:13 AM)=P
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maikl http://www.todaracing.com.au/toda_home.html they h... Apr 28, 2005 - 10:48 AM
turboinduction QUOTE(maikl @ Apr 28, 2005 - 9:48 AM)http://w... Apr 28, 2005 - 11:02 AM
Coomer Like I said earlier, the pistons work, they just t... Apr 28, 2005 - 2:30 PM
turboinduction QUOTE(Coomer @ Apr 28, 2005 - 1:30 PM)Like I ... Apr 28, 2005 - 3:47 PM
Coomer Hmm, you have a ton of researching to do before yo... Apr 28, 2005 - 3:57 PM
nik here 20 VALVE FORGED TURBO PISTONS 8.5:1 @ http:/... Apr 28, 2005 - 4:25 PM
turboinduction QUOTE(Coomer @ Apr 28, 2005 - 2:57 PM)Hmm, yo... Apr 28, 2005 - 8:58 PM
frotou http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=94447... Apr 28, 2005 - 4:32 PM
Kwanza26 Toda doesn't make low-comp anything because th... Apr 28, 2005 - 6:16 PM
turboinduction anyone know? Apr 29, 2005 - 1:57 PM
Coomer As I understand it, a higher lift pushes the valve... Apr 29, 2005 - 2:51 PM
turboinduction QUOTE(Coomer @ Apr 29, 2005 - 1:51 PM)As I un... Apr 29, 2005 - 5:17 PM
Coomer QUOTE(turboinduction @ Apr 29, 2005 - 3:17 PM... Apr 29, 2005 - 5:24 PM
frotou Catcams are listed for the 20 valves but better to... Apr 29, 2005 - 5:58 PM
frotou http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...me=ST... Apr 29, 2005 - 8:48 PM
turboinduction hrm - seems like I'll have to do a little more... Apr 29, 2005 - 9:03 PM
Dr_Tweak With cams, you have to watch the overlap. Overlap ... Apr 29, 2005 - 9:56 PM
turboinduction So stock overlap would keep VVTi in check, but may... Apr 30, 2005 - 6:49 AM
Dr_Tweak A lot of people do that, yeah. May 2, 2005 - 4:58 AM
turboinduction QUOTE(raven_101 @ May 2, 2005 - 3:58 AM)A lot... May 2, 2005 - 11:53 AM
nik if your still looking for pistons the guys over on... May 4, 2005 - 10:55 AM![]() ![]() |
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