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Well to make a long story short, I have been obsessing over s2k's for quite a while now and I am actually contemplating selling the celi and getting one. One reason being that it has 235k miles on it. Anyways, I was just wondering if anyone knew of any sites with good info on s2ks, or if anyone could answer any of these questions.
-What's a good year to get? (yes I realize that's an extremely general question but I don't know how else to word it) -What year did they start making them? -What would be considered a good price on a used, but still good condition s2k Thanks, -Josh This post has been edited by gt_driFFter: May 8, 2005 - 10:13 PM |
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If he wants it we wont convince him to get another type, I was just stating the it's a good car, but for all the money sunk into it, they could have done, better. What about 300hp, the S2000 doesn't have 300, for the same price as the S2000 you can get the 350Z Roadster and walk all over it, it even has near perfect weight distribution. Everyone goes on about how great Honda is, yes they're good, but just because they were first on the import tuner market doesn't make them the greatest, I don't care if someone can squeeze 240hp out of a 2.2 litre, Mazda did it with a 1.3 (rotory of course). Take the Solstice for instance, you have a 177hp roadster, for $20 grand, alright sink an extra $13,000 in it and that $33,000 price tag of the S2000 makes you look like you got a steal. (and don't even try to say the Ecotec can't handle it, they use the stock block in the drag cars) The S2000 along with other Hondas are over rated, you don't get what you pay for, unlike with other manufacturers, it's a status symbol not a race car. The S2000 is a good car in general, but it cost to much for what you get, when you have other roadsters that cost much less, and nearly beat it, that isn't an honor that's a go back to the drawing board.
"A nest of hornets under the hood with not enough sting" - Car and Driver "The inflexible power band is also what makes the S2000 a somewhat unsatisfying drive in everyday traffic. The Honda is a stone in first gear until the VTEC crossover at about 33 mph, at which time any cop loitering nearby will wonder where all the noise is coming from." - Car and Driver "The S2000 was 0.7 mph slower over its fastest lap than the porkier 350Z and only 0.5 mph faster than the clomping Mustang Mach 1. The S2000 engine's compressed power band is its downfall. You don't get all the horsepower you've paid for until the engine zings to 8300 rpm, or all the torque — that is, all 153 pound-feet — until 7500 rpm." - Car and Driver These quotes are from a comparo, the 350Z came in first, unless you are looking for a weekend driver, an S2000 is a bad idea. Like I said before you have to floor it to get to any power. That's why I brought the Miata, good power, and a softer ride, with a much lower powerband. IMO if you want to run at 8,000 RPM's everywhere you go buy a Ducati and smoke every car on the road. This post has been edited by darksecret: May 12, 2005 - 11:38 AM |
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QUOTE(darksecret @ May 12, 2005 - 4:08 PM) If he wants it we wont convince him to get another type, I was just stating the it's a good car, but for all the money sunk into it, they could have done, better. What about 300hp, the S2000 doesn't have 300, for the same price as the S2000 you can get the 350Z Roadster and walk all over it, it even has near perfect weight distribution. Heh... the 300 number is based on your opinion that the S2000 needs an additional 50hp. And the 350Z roadster won't walk all over the S2000. The 350Z roadster is too fat to "walk all over" the S2000. The Z roadster weighs over 4000 pounds. You obviously don't know too much about track racing and the autoX scene if you think that. You're arguing like a domestic guy trying to go import. ![]() QUOTE Everyone goes on about how great Honda is, yes they're good, but just because they were first on the import tuner market doesn't make them the greatest, I don't care if someone can squeeze 240hp out of a 2.2 litre, Mazda did it with a 1.3 (rotory of course). I'm sorry brother... but you just don't know what you're talking about. You're trying to compare apples and oranges when you bring up rotaries. Honda is the best of the best when it comes to n/a 4 bangers. Mazda's rotaries don't fall under the same catergory as normal piston engines as far as hp per liter goes. QUOTE Take the Solstice for instance, you have a 177hp roadster, for $20 grand, alright sink an extra $13,000 in it and that $33,000 price tag of the S2000 makes you look like you got a steal. (and don't even try to say the Ecotec can't handle it, they use the stock block in the drag cars) Heheh... how many people buy a brand new car and then void all warantees my modding it? There is no logic in your reasoning here. I can take a 500.00 dollar startlet and with 10K turn it into a sub 9 second car if I really wanted to... but who cares really. NOBODY asked what cars are better than the S2000... You're the one trying to show off bustin on a Honda without any reason. QUOTE The S2000 along with other Hondas are over rated, you don't get what you pay for, unlike with other manufacturers, it's a status symbol not a race car. The S2000 is a good car in general, but it cost to much for what you get, when you have other roadsters that cost much less, and nearly beat it, that isn't an honor that's a go back to the drawing board. LOL... good for you. So you now prove you have an extreme bias against Honda. If you've ever built a Honda race car, perhaps you'll understand the reason why they're so popular. Of course popular cars tend to draw in people who do stupid **** to their cars, but that by no means makes one car better or worse than another. It's ignorant to say Honda's are overrated because they're popular. Let's see here... Skunk2 built some of the FIRST sub 10 second n/a FWD drag cars powered by Honda engines. Spoon has been very dominant in 24 hour endurance races around the world (they won recently at Thunder Hill raceway)... Honda powered F1 racecars have been very dominant for over a decade (90's)... I agree their fan-base is all based on fads... but you're no better than the bandwagoneers when you dis on something based on other people's opinions. QUOTE "A nest of hornets under the hood with not enough sting" - Car and Driver "The inflexible power band is also what makes the S2000 a somewhat unsatisfying drive in everyday traffic. The Honda is a stone in first gear until the VTEC crossover at about 33 mph, at which time any cop loitering nearby will wonder where all the noise is coming from." - Car and Driver "The S2000 was 0.7 mph slower over its fastest lap than the porkier 350Z and only 0.5 mph faster than the clomping Mustang Mach 1. The S2000 engine's compressed power band is its downfall. You don't get all the horsepower you've paid for until the engine zings to 8300 rpm, or all the torque — that is, all 153 pound-feet — until 7500 rpm." - Car and Driver These quotes are from a comparo, the 350Z came in first, unless you are looking for a weekend driver, an S2000 is a bad idea. Like I said before you have to floor it to get to any power. That's why I brought the Miata, good power, and a softer ride, with a much lower powerband. IMO if you want to run at 8,000 RPM's everywhere you go buy a Ducati and smoke every car on the road. [right][snapback]286051[/snapback][/right] So you're baseing EVERYTHING you've said on someone else's opinion? You're trying to convince people something is bad based on OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINION? If you've NEVER driven an S2000 like it's meant to be driven, how can you come to some radical conclusion (like it's lacking in power), or any conclusion at all? That's pretty silly if you're looking at it from an objective veiw point. The S2000 was pretty much the top of its class when it was first introduced, but it's not designed to be a daily driver of sorts. It's a pure enthusiast car. It's like buying a Ferrari and sulking because it gets ****ty gas mileage. Seriously now. -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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