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> raced a 7th gen gt-s, damn there fast!
post May 16, 2005 - 8:02 AM
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ok so i have a 94 6th gen manual st. and my friends just got a 00 7th gen gt-s (auto) i know there faster but it being a auto and me haveing a short ram , and well kinda an exhaust i though it would be pretty fair. well we raced and i had him at the starts but when his hit 2nd GOD DAMN!! he was cooking, then i hit 3rd i was catching up and by the time i was in 4th i had gotten even with him, we cut out every time by 75 or 80. and he had me almost every time for most of the race. but i did have him a few times. biggrin.gif any one here ever race one??
 
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post May 16, 2005 - 9:02 AM
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well take a look at the stats:

'00-'04 1.8L GT-S (stock)
180 HP
125 Ft-Lb Torque

'94-'99 2.2L GT (stock)
138 HP
145 Ft-Lb Torque

Not sure what stats are on the '94-'99 but as you can see, even a GT would have some trouble handling a GT-S. Two most important thigns to racing is weight and torque, (HP sells cars, but torque wins races) and the GT has more torque, which is why you had him in first, but his higher HP gives him better midrange and high-end power, which is why he had you in second and third. Both cars weigh about the same (the '00 celicas look huge, but still only weigh 2,600 can anyone explain that to me smile.gif but yea, it is a close race. Personally I have yet to race one, I don't see too many around my area, but if I do I will post back the results smile.gif


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post May 16, 2005 - 9:27 AM
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QUOTE(red94celicagt @ May 16, 2005 - 10:02 AM)
well take a look at the stats:

'00-'04 1.8L GT-S  (stock)
  180 HP
  125 Ft-Lb Torque

'94-'99 2.2L GT  (stock)
  138 HP
  145 Ft-Lb Torque

Not sure what stats are on the '94-'99 but as you can see, even a GT would have some trouble handling a GT-S. Two most important thigns to racing is weight and torque, (HP sells cars, but torque wins races) and the GT has more torque, which is why you had him in first, but his higher HP gives him better midrange and high-end power, which is why he had you in second and third. Both cars weigh about the same (the '00 celicas look huge, but still only weigh 2,600 can anyone explain that to me smile.gif  but yea, it is a close race. Personally I have yet to race one, I don't see too many around my area, but if I do I will post back the results smile.gif
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If only that was true, see if it was turbo diesel trucks would be destroying everybody. Torque is a good thing, if you don't have enough then it makes it hard for your car to get going, but horsepower keeps it going faster, horsepower kicks in when the initial need for starting torque really isn't required anymore, Hot Rod magazine did a big breakdown during their Cobra vs. WRX STi comparo issue. You could have all the torque in the world but without decent horsepower numbers your car would only be good for pulling tree stumps. Look at it like this the S2000 has a lot of horsepower but lacks below the belt, so the optimal driving range is around 7,000 rpm for highway cruising due to a lack of torque(this is from Hot Rod, C&D, and R&T), now you have an old Z28, the optimal range is around 1,800 rpm for highway cruising due to torque, but if you took the Z28 and tried to go past say 6,000 rpm with it you'll get no where since it's not designed to operate in those ranges. Bottom line torque is best for everyday driving and road corses since you take advantage of the lower rpm levels, but if you want something for a drag strip go for horsepower since you wont have to worry about keeping your foot in it just to keep from being run over by the mini van behind you.

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- rockstarbass1   raced a 7th gen gt-s   May 16, 2005 - 8:02 AM
- - darksecret   Yeah they have pretty decent mid range. I haven...   May 16, 2005 - 8:26 AM
- - red94celicagt   well take a look at the stats: '00-'04 1....   May 16, 2005 - 9:02 AM
|- - darksecret   QUOTE(red94celicagt @ May 16, 2005 - 10:02 AM...   May 16, 2005 - 9:27 AM
|- - red94celicagt   QUOTE(darksecret @ May 16, 2005 - 9:27 AM)QUO...   May 17, 2005 - 8:01 AM
- - Supersprynt   Why does torque win races if by the time your at t...   May 16, 2005 - 9:09 AM
- - 97sccelica   i read this in some muscle car magazine "if ...   May 16, 2005 - 12:55 PM
- - pokemeintheeye   Are you serious? Your st auto kept up with a gts ...   May 16, 2005 - 5:13 PM
|- - BLINKYxMUNKEY   QUOTE(pokemeintheeye @ May 16, 2005 - 5:13 PM...   May 16, 2005 - 5:25 PM
|- - pokemeintheeye   QUOTE(BLINKYxMUNKEY @ May 16, 2005 - 10:25 PM...   May 16, 2005 - 5:53 PM
- - zachattack15   My friend has an 01 GTS and I have a 94 manual GT ...   May 16, 2005 - 10:30 PM
- - ummmx2   yea the manual gt-s would kill ne other stock olde...   May 16, 2005 - 11:21 PM
- - rockstarbass1   yea i have manual, he was auto. and like i said i ...   May 17, 2005 - 7:53 AM
- - rockstarbass1   but he does have more hp, so why by the time i wa...   May 17, 2005 - 11:44 AM
- - Mr_E   QUOTE(rockstarbass1 @ May 16, 2005 - 8:02 AM)...   May 17, 2005 - 3:13 PM
|- - FallenHero   QUOTE(Mr_E @ May 17, 2005 - 1:13 PM)QUOTE(roc...   May 17, 2005 - 4:21 PM
- - pokemeintheeye   I think some people on here are mistaking rockstar...   May 17, 2005 - 5:35 PM
- - Consynx   i can't remember how the 7th gen's wenth, ...   May 18, 2005 - 7:35 AM
- - rockstarbass1   yea it seamed like 1st and 2nd were his only chanc...   May 18, 2005 - 2:16 PM
- - Mike   your title is wrong 7th gens are SLOW our cars are...   May 18, 2005 - 2:48 PM
- - urbandork   my homy has a gts 7th and it hauls @$$ ...   May 19, 2005 - 1:34 AM
- - snadman   Yeah the manual GT-S are pretty decent. Once the l...   May 19, 2005 - 1:51 AM
- - bufferdan   I guess the Automatic GTS's run high 16's ...   May 19, 2005 - 9:21 AM
- - RUNNIN-LOW   well 7th gens are fast but if you consider turboin...   May 19, 2005 - 10:55 AM
- - rockstarbass1   yea i laughed at this kid when he got the auto i w...   May 19, 2005 - 11:40 AM
- - slipgun   depends the psi I think most turbo 7afe's run ...   May 19, 2005 - 8:13 PM


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