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> BIGGER WHEELS = SLOWER CAR???, can you say INERTIA???
post Apr 12, 2003 - 11:18 PM
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just wondering.... do bigger wheels make the car accelerate slower and stop longer because of the greater rotational inertia??? yes I know big wheels make steering more responsive.. so maybe going from 15 to 16 makes sense.. but 17 and 18???? do some people sacrifice performance for look???

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post Apr 27, 2003 - 10:08 AM
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I think the stock 15x7 GT wheel is closer to 18 lbs., I sold a set recently and seem to remember 18. I am getting ready to swap a couple of tires around, will post the weight of the stock wheel then.
On my wife's digital bathroom scale, the stock 15x7 wheel with worn Michelin Pilot 205-55-15 is 34.2 lbs. while one with most of its tread left (had one tire replaced) comes in at 36.0 lbs. so wear can change things by a couple of pounds also.
Michelin doesnt list weight on their web site, but Continental does, their Extreme Contact 205-55-15 is 21 lbs. while a 215-40-17 is 20.9 lbs. and the Conti Sport Contact in 225-45-zr16 is 18.9 lbs. while the 265-35zr18 (which is 24.3" tall) is 23.7 lbs. (all tires have the same approx diameter 23.9 for the 1st 3 and 24.3" on the 18), so weight can vary between models and same approx. sizes even in the same brand.
36 lbs is probably a good baseline to start from. If a person stays in the same height range as stock(23.9" diameter) , and the same approx stock weight (36 lbs wheel and tire combo) they could run 17 or 18 inch and probably not lose any performance. As far as the weight being concentrated farther out from the center affecting anything, I think it would be too hard to calculate. does it really make a difference accelerating 2 differently shaped masses of the same overall diameter and weight? I agree if you go taller, you will take a performance hit, (even 1 inch will make a noticeable difference and affect the speedo)
And remember wear can account for a few pounds of rubber, so a few pounds either way probably wont make a noticeable difference.

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- pflau   BIGGER WHEELS = SLOWER CAR???   Apr 12, 2003 - 11:18 PM
- - hata   in my opinon.. what u said in ur paragraph was co...   Apr 13, 2003 - 1:18 AM
- - boosted_K2   remember weight is a big factor in that equation t...   Apr 13, 2003 - 1:24 AM
- - Neipas09   I've heard that you can go up to 17s without s...   Apr 13, 2003 - 1:24 AM
- - boosted_K2   QUOTE (Neipas09 @ Apr 13, 2003 - 12:38 AM) I'v...   Apr 13, 2003 - 1:31 AM
- - No0bOne   There's an explanation for bigger wheels=slowe...   Apr 13, 2003 - 1:44 AM
- - jontechie   QUOTE (K2_Celica @ Apr 12, 2003 - 10:45 PM) QUOTE ...   Apr 13, 2003 - 9:17 AM
- - 95STCelica   Our cars don't have enough torque to sufficien...   Apr 13, 2003 - 1:03 PM
- - pflau   hey maybe I worry too much... let me think about ...   Apr 13, 2003 - 2:07 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   QUOTE (pflau @ Apr 13, 2003 - 11:21 AM) hey maybe ...   Apr 13, 2003 - 7:12 PM
- - sirrahtap   QUOTE (pflau @ Apr 13, 2003 - 11:21 AM) hey maybe ...   Apr 13, 2003 - 7:19 PM
- - 97GTinKC   But its not the wheel diameter that matters, its t...   Apr 19, 2003 - 12:26 AM
- - 94celicaguy   i have tenzoR's apex-5 18's and i cant rea...   Apr 19, 2003 - 12:53 AM
- - hioctane   What about 16s ?? I have the gts rims. I used the ...   Apr 19, 2003 - 1:47 AM
- - pflau   QUOTE (97GTinKC @ Apr 18, 2003 - 9:40 PM)(this is ...   Apr 19, 2003 - 2:35 AM
- - boosted_K2   QUOTE (97GTinKC @ Apr 18, 2003 - 11:40 PM) But its...   Apr 19, 2003 - 10:32 AM
- - boosted_K2   QUOTE (hioctane @ Apr 19, 2003 - 1:01 AM) What abo...   Apr 19, 2003 - 10:33 AM
- - ghostdog   QUOTE (K2_Celica @ Apr 19, 2003 - 7:47 AM) This ha...   Apr 19, 2003 - 11:36 AM
- - macavely   just remeber that if change you wheel you have to ...   Apr 19, 2003 - 11:36 AM
- - hioctane   QUOTE (K2_Celica @ Apr 19, 2003 - 7:47 AM) QUOTE (...   Apr 19, 2003 - 1:33 PM
- - 97GTinKC   QUOTE what are you talking about.. drilled rotors ...   Apr 19, 2003 - 6:04 PM
- - Matthew   think of it as a 21 speed mountain bike first gea...   Apr 19, 2003 - 6:45 PM
- - nik   THE WHOLE REASON FOR BIGGER RIMS IS SO THAT YOU CA...   Apr 22, 2003 - 2:43 PM
- - Zoom   There's no need for the all caps man, just a t...   Apr 22, 2003 - 4:57 PM
- - airj0hn   Do most wheel websites show the weight of the whee...   Apr 22, 2003 - 6:24 PM
- - hi_rider   on www.1010tires.com, you get the weight of wheels...   Apr 22, 2003 - 8:25 PM
- - 94Toy   So from what I've read on all this wheel talk,...   Apr 24, 2003 - 11:34 PM
- - hi_rider   If you want speed, go with Super lightweight wheel...   Apr 25, 2003 - 5:19 AM
- - 97GTinKC   I think the stock 15x7 GT wheel is closer to 18 lb...   Apr 27, 2003 - 10:08 AM
- - pflau   hey the stock GT 15x7 wheel is about 16lb each. I ...   Apr 29, 2003 - 8:45 PM
- - KAMiX   Is the weight of the wheels really going to make s...   Apr 29, 2003 - 9:30 PM
- - hi_rider   That's what I was thinking before, but now I...   Apr 30, 2003 - 5:20 AM
- - KAMiX   Yeah I got ya man. Not going to stop me though o...   May 2, 2003 - 6:33 AM
- - Rivo   It's that age old concept of rotating mass ...   May 2, 2003 - 11:53 AM
- - Supersprynt   WHen i put my 17's on, compared to stock you c...   May 2, 2003 - 12:39 PM
- - 94Toy   Okay I was just wondering, does the weight of the ...   May 2, 2003 - 11:10 PM
- - KAMiX   I really don't know what the difference is wit...   May 3, 2003 - 4:31 AM
- - maikl   i know that bigger rims will make the car slower b...   May 3, 2003 - 6:28 AM
- - 97GTinKC   QUOTE know that bigger rims will make the car slo...   May 3, 2003 - 9:55 PM
- - maikl   i just got the mim rims they are from italy and th...   May 4, 2003 - 9:18 AM
- - pflau   check this out.. wheelweights.net I've alway...   May 4, 2003 - 1:30 PM
- - 97GTinKC   WOW! A 16x7 weighs anywhere from 10.8 (Racing...   May 5, 2003 - 10:49 AM
- - pflau   yep, and the SSR wheels are among the lightest.. n...   May 5, 2003 - 6:15 PM


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