Apr 2, 2005 - 11:51 AM
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hey guys, since i've been fielding alot of questions about turboing the 5s, and most of the links in the 5sfte sticky are dead, i figured i start a thread about the buildup of my kit, and try to include as many details as possible, so everyone can learn a little more about what exactly goes into a setup like this. ill keep updating the threads and adding pics and stuff as i upload more ect..
im not gonna get into the whole why not swap a 3s instead debate here, thats a dead issue as far as im concerned. (not that i think swapping is a bad idea, just not for me.) so, ill start off by saying the single most important thing you can do if you wanna turbo your 5s is RESEARCH! take your time, learn about the diffrent systems that all work together to make a good kit work. go to www.howstuffworks.com and find out how EVERYTHING works, it'll make understanding the hows and whys of everything so much easier. i've been reserching about this for 2+yrs and i STILL learn new things everyday. #2 is DONT BE CHEAP...can you do it cheap? yea..will it last? prolly not. thats gotta be the SINGLE biggest mistake i see EVERYONE make. cheap out on all the little stuff, and it WILL come back to haunt you in the end that said, i decided i wanted to turbo my 5s. lol so, off on the hunt i went...parts lists, install sites, the burien kit...i searched it ALLLLLL...for MONTHS!! talking to people, looking at sites, printing info..basicly what the old timers call "goin to the woodshed" then, i started looking for parts: 3s exhaust manifold, ct-26 turbo, oil hard lines, elbow and primary cat (also known as a downpipe), if your not planning on getting a aftermarket downpipe. also the oil pan and 2bar map sensor. your gonna want these off of a 2nd gen 3sgte from a 90-93 alltrac or mr2T, and are pretty easy finds over on www.alltrac.net and or www.mr2oc.com. if your not a member of these 2 sites, YOU SHOULD BE!!! theres a wealth of info on these to sites, and while alot of it may not be 5sfte spacific, its still VERY good info, especially the 90-99 mr2/ 3sgte forum. next was injectors. there is ALOT of confusion here, where to find them, what they look like, what size are they really ect. what we're looking for is the MKIII N/A supra injectors. not turbo injectors, not alltrac injectors, N/A MKIII supra. theyre a lime green color, and 315cc. just to clear up another point of confusion, they do NOT become bigger injectors in our cars. the fuel pressure between the n/a supra and the 5s is the SAME. there is a pic in the 5sfte sticky of what they look like and the flow tests to show it. i found mine on ebay, but you can sometimes find them on some of the boards ive mentioned, and the supraforums. also, i really reccomend having the injectors cleaned and balanced once you get them, if you look closley at the printout for my injectors in the sticky from when i had them cleaned and balanced, youll see why i say this. one of my injectors wasnt even spraying, it was DRIPPING before it was cleaned. i'd HATE to see what would happen if i'd installed that thing in there and cranked up the boost! so yea, i really cant stress enough, HAVE YOUR INJECTORS CLEANED BEFORE YOU INSTALL THEM!!! www.rceng.com did an excelent job on mine for about 100$, and ive heard thru the mr2 board that www.witchhunter.com also does a very good job, and are only 12$ per injector. EDIT!!! 315CC injectors are TOO SMALL for use in a turbo 5sfe. 460cc rx7 injectors are a drop in replacement and are discribed later in this post!!! you'll also need to upgrade your fuel pump, use the 255lph walboro supra pump. you can get it for under 100 usually on ebay., and pretty much bolts in. next for me was the intercooler..now contrary to popular belief, bigger IS NOT always better when it comes to intercoolers. you wanna choose the smallest intercooler to fit your needs, with a LITTLE room for growth. for instance, in my case, my goal is around 190-200whp for now, so i chose a intercooler thats 26x6x3 overall length, with endtanks. its good for up to 300hp. why not somthing bigger? well, the #1 reason is theres no NEED for anything bigger. lol the bigger you go, the more pressure drop you have, and thats not what we want. with all the piping invloved for a 5sfte FMIC, the last then we want is some big honking core, sucking up 2-3 or more psi of the boost we wanna get to our engines. for the piping, again, bigger is NOT always better. 2" or 2.25 " is more than sufficent for us. you'll need to buy pre-bent lengths and cut and fit them for your particular setup. jcwhitney is cheap for aluminized steel, or burns stainless if you want stainless pipes. then the noise maker of the bunch TOO BE CONTINUED... This post has been edited by presure2: Nov 11, 2007 - 10:53 AM -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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presure2 my 5SFTE turbo project Apr 2, 2005 - 11:51 AM
presure2 a word about piping couplers and clamps here.
DO N... Apr 2, 2005 - 2:23 PM
shin this is an excellent post. i'll be following y... Apr 2, 2005 - 2:25 PM
1bwilson Thanks Manny Apr 2, 2005 - 5:11 PM
presure2 ok gauges..first of course, is a boost gauge, we a... Apr 2, 2005 - 7:00 PM
x_itchy_b_x Like you were saying about the Safc for tuning ful... Apr 2, 2005 - 10:47 PM
94GT Are you going to scrap the stock oil cooler? The ... Apr 3, 2005 - 7:03 PM
blu94gt just curious what kind of turbo are you using? An... Apr 6, 2005 - 12:28 AM
presure2 hey guys sorry i havent updated this week, i have ... Apr 6, 2005 - 6:40 AM
rjbibeau how much is that ct-27 runnin ya?? 800 or so. i th... Apr 8, 2005 - 12:37 PM
presure2 its like 850 w/core, plus im having the wastegate ... Apr 8, 2005 - 2:54 PM
presure2 ok i wanna talk a little here about oil lines.
the... Apr 11, 2005 - 11:30 AM
urbandork QUOTE(presure2 @ Apr 11, 2005 - 4:30 PM)the b... Apr 12, 2005 - 11:54 AM
Newbie How about coolant lines.. Any pictures of that, an... Apr 13, 2005 - 12:23 AM
presure2 ok guys since its been awhile since i updated this... May 10, 2005 - 9:43 AM
Drocay very nice, bro.
good job. May 10, 2005 - 9:56 AM
presure2 i also have been working on getting my oil feed li... May 10, 2005 - 10:31 AM
presure2 the canton racing oil filter relocation adapter
t... May 10, 2005 - 10:33 AM
CelicaZR This will be very helpful for me in the future
... May 10, 2005 - 10:51 AM
94GT Update? May 18, 2005 - 2:44 PM
presure2 QUOTE94GT Posted Today, 03:44 PM
Update?
like... May 18, 2005 - 3:44 PM
Dr_Tweak QUOTE(presure2 @ May 18, 2005 - 8:44 PM)
like... May 20, 2005 - 11:42 PM
x_itchy_b_x woot for T bolts May 18, 2005 - 7:58 PM
presure2 heres a few more pics for you guys..
the magnaflow... May 25, 2005 - 6:08 AM
presure2 got my battery tray/holder in earlier today, and m... May 26, 2005 - 3:06 PM
presure2 heres a couple pics of my exhaust manifold after t... May 27, 2005 - 6:23 AM
presure2 hey guys, big news... as some of you know, i got m... Jun 4, 2005 - 12:23 AM
jgreening I am excited for you Manny....its fun watching you... Jun 4, 2005 - 1:47 AM
Batman722 RE: my 5SFTE turbo project Jun 4, 2005 - 11:12 PM
presure2 hey dustin, at least you didnt get the big hole in... Jun 5, 2005 - 7:48 AM
presure2 ok guys after a LONG weekend of hard work, its fin... Jun 6, 2005 - 7:44 AM
rjbibeau are you taking your oil from the oil cooler part o... Jun 6, 2005 - 11:38 AM
presure2 QUOTEare you taking your oil from the oil cooler p... Jun 6, 2005 - 2:53 PM
defgeph Congrats ! Great work man.
Looks awesome.
DE... Jun 6, 2005 - 4:34 PM
trdevelopment s0 nice keep up the good work and keep the picture... Jun 6, 2005 - 7:01 PM
presure2 ok so, its been like 2 months or somthing since i ... Aug 17, 2005 - 10:10 AM
presure2 RE: my 5SFTE turbo project Aug 17, 2005 - 10:22 AM
presure2 RE: my 5SFTE turbo project Aug 17, 2005 - 10:32 AM
presure2 RE: my 5SFTE turbo project Aug 17, 2005 - 10:38 AM
presure2 that sums up the turbo install.
that following mon... Aug 17, 2005 - 10:38 AM
presure2 a few days later i went over to my local dynojet:
... Aug 17, 2005 - 10:42 AM
presure2 and thats about where we stand today, 2.5months la... Aug 17, 2005 - 10:46 AM
shin toooooooooooooo HOOOOOOOOOOOT~!! can't... Aug 17, 2005 - 10:57 AM
OOBE WOOT! 12 PSI...if my puny little 7A-FE did it,... Aug 17, 2005 - 11:32 AM
presure2 since i been fielding a bunch of questions about t... Aug 31, 2005 - 9:15 AM
presure2 went back to the dyno with the 460cc injectors for... Apr 1, 2006 - 9:17 AM
presure2 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
ok guys, today official... Jun 6, 2006 - 7:47 AM
shin yea. this set up is an awesome set up. i'm loo... Jun 6, 2006 - 9:25 AM
lagos congrads manny ! Jun 6, 2006 - 11:08 AM
brianforster every time i see you post i get excited, haha Jun 6, 2006 - 11:11 AM
dustin15brown whats the total cost on this project so far Jun 6, 2006 - 11:44 AM
presure2 QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Jun 6, 2006 - 12... Jun 6, 2006 - 12:28 PM
Silver94CelicaOwner Happy birthday, 5SFTE! w00t.
Certainly has be... Jun 6, 2006 - 12:04 PM
hitcachi Manny, just so you know, your pics on your piping ... Jun 6, 2006 - 3:18 PM
j0e_p3t love your car. never would've thought a 5sfe c... Jun 6, 2006 - 7:25 PM
massbrandon Ive said it before and Ill say it again. Youre my ... Jun 6, 2006 - 8:40 PM
Cutrara Nice results. I love reading about your project, j... Jun 6, 2006 - 8:44 PM
sugarfree Thats good to see that you have a turbo 5s last th... Jun 6, 2006 - 10:55 PM
MaX love your work manny,
i know who to talk to when ... Jun 7, 2006 - 12:22 AM
Supersprynt QUOTEblowing theyre motors to smitherinees Jun 7, 2006 - 9:07 AM
defgeph To one year and still going strong.
Congrats ... Jun 7, 2006 - 9:51 AM
Batman722 OK I have had first hand experience with this car ... Jun 7, 2006 - 1:50 PM
elvasoshexai one day my celi is gonna grow up to be just like u... Jun 7, 2006 - 1:57 PM
presure2 thanks for all the props, guys. i appreciate it, a... Jun 7, 2006 - 6:46 PM
WALKER QUOTE(presure2 @ Jun 7, 2006 - 5:46 ... Jun 7, 2006 - 7:11 PM
presure2 QUOTE(WALKER @ Jun 7, 2006 - 8:11 PM... Jun 7, 2006 - 7:56 PM
frosty I love this post and it really helps out in the re... Jun 16, 2006 - 12:37 PM
presure2 frosty, gas milage is all dependant on the right f... Jun 16, 2006 - 12:51 PM
frosty QUOTE(presure2 @ Jun 16, 2006 - 5:51... Jun 16, 2006 - 1:11 PM
shin manny's research and info have opened a better... Jun 16, 2006 - 3:27 PM
jgreening long live the 5sfte! Good job Manny - your is... Jun 16, 2006 - 3:35 PM
puretone hi, i got a 5th gen 5SFE that i turbo'd, i kno... Jun 18, 2006 - 8:35 AM
presure2 puretone,
i actually am using the 2bar map, just ... Jun 18, 2006 - 8:45 AM
puretone QUOTE(presure2 @ Jun 18, 2006 - 8:45... Jun 18, 2006 - 9:06 AM
presure2 naa, no need for any fuel mods at this point.
i h... Jun 18, 2006 - 9:15 AM
puretone QUOTE(presure2 @ Jun 18, 2006 - 9:15... Jun 18, 2006 - 9:27 AM
presure2 Dynojet Research Inc.
Run Name: C:\DynoRuns... Jun 18, 2006 - 10:42 AM
IdiotStick So pressure, in your honest opinion here. If you ... Sep 23, 2006 - 6:01 PM
presure2 i would do it again in a second, only insead of ge... Sep 23, 2006 - 6:13 PM
WALKER QUOTE(presure2 @ Sep 23, 2006 - 5:13... Sep 23, 2006 - 6:16 PM
presure2 naa, i just feel like i could have used the extra ... Sep 23, 2006 - 6:51 PM
lagos manny, you are the MANny! its great how much ... Sep 23, 2006 - 10:50 PM
presure2 QUOTE(lagos @ Sep 23, 2006 - 11:50 P... Sep 24, 2006 - 7:27 AM
Bitter retard at the distributor would only help when he ... Sep 24, 2006 - 12:13 AM
lagos QUOTE(Bitter @ Sep 24, 2006 - 1:13 A... Sep 24, 2006 - 12:42 AM
x_itchy_b_x yeah tuning is a crucial link in good performing m... Sep 24, 2006 - 11:32 AM
Agent21 Manny if you want to try it I can get a hold of so... Sep 24, 2006 - 11:39 AM
presure2 QUOTE(Agent21 @ Sep 24, 2006 - 12:39... Sep 24, 2006 - 1:24 PM
lagos dont forget to take our your wideband, next time y... Sep 24, 2006 - 1:53 PM
presure2 QUOTE(lagos @ Sep 24, 2006 - 2:53 PM... Sep 24, 2006 - 5:32 PM
6strngs manny, I love your car dude. I've got a coupl... Oct 13, 2006 - 3:07 AM
presure2 QUOTE(6strngs @ Oct 13, 2006 - 4:07 ... Oct 13, 2006 - 5:47 AM
elvasoshexai QUOTE(presure2 @ Oct 13, 2006 - 6:47... Oct 13, 2006 - 12:39 PM
presure2 QUOTE(elvasoshexai @ Oct 13, 2006 - 1... Oct 13, 2006 - 4:10 PM
lagos QUOTEI'm a poor college student. if my engine ... Oct 13, 2006 - 11:17 AM
NuclearHappineS QUOTEits probably best to keep it stock then.
you... Oct 14, 2006 - 12:28 PM
6strngs so, what's better about the greddy emanage ult... Oct 14, 2006 - 5:18 PM
presure2 the ultimate adds timing control, as well as sever... Oct 14, 2006 - 6:08 PM
6strngs QUOTE(presure2 @ Oct 14, 2006 - 4:08... Oct 15, 2006 - 1:34 AM![]() ![]() |
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