Beat a 7Gen GT..., WTF just happened??? Options

[JoKeRkId613]

I'm on my way home... I see a blue 7th Gen Celi GT on I-75... So I'm just cruising and I notice it's a young guy and the Celi has a little body kit. So I'm thinking, "let me just see how much that car can beat me by". So I pull up even next to him. Three honks. Beep, beep, beep. GO. I had the guy the whole time, pretty much... He kept up with me for like a second. Mind you I have an automatic ST. WTF just happened??? I thought the new Celis were faster! This is a true story and apparently this guy does not know how to drive. I mean, he honked thrice so this was a race. Maybe he was messing with me? What happened? Lol.

[darksecret]

I'm comparing a modded econo engine (that nobody gives credit since nobody tries to really mod it) to a stock performance engine. My bad I said KA20 didn't I i've been talking about 240's a lot lately, to get technical (since the only person it bothers is Kwanza) K20A3, K20A is the Civic Type R right and the K20A2 is the RSX-S, I said Civic Si though, not Type R or RSX Type S. You're right about the Prelude I went off of the numbers since i've only seen one willing to race and I know he would beat me I don't have first hand experience. I figured you of all people would know that knowledge of motors has nothing to do with driving, look at Nascar that stuff looks easy but they don't have the electronic "driving assistants" that other forms of racing have and you can't find too many Nascar guys that can tell you what a 350 is. Also consider this i'm no Honda expert I go off what I race I know enough about Hondas to know which one I can try and which I need to stay away from, if the Si's are so quick you guys got some bad reps because if an Si w/ intake and exhaust can't beat a weak little Celica with some cams, intake, and exhaust Honda Hell must be freezing over.

This post has been edited by darksecret: Jun 13, 2005 - 6:14 PM

[Kwanza26]

I'm comparing a modded econo engine (that nobody gives credit since nobody tries to really mod it) to a stock performance engine. My bad I said KA20 didn't I i've been talking about 240's a lot lately, to get technical (since the only person it bothers is Kwanza) K20A3, K20A is the Civic Type R right and the K20A2 is the RSX-S, I said Civic Si though, not Type R or RSX Type S. You're right about the Prelude I went off of the numbers since i've only seen one willing to race and I know he would beat me I don't have first hand experience. I figured you of all people would know that knowledge of motors has nothing to do with driving, look at Nascar that stuff looks easy but they don't have the electronic "driving assistants" that other forms of racing have and you can't find too many Nascar guys that can tell you what a 350 is.
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It's not a matter of giving credit... you're comparing apples and oranges based on remote accounts. On average, 6th gen Celicas are 17 second cars between modded GT's and ST's. On average, modded 7th gen GT's and GT-S's are 14-15 second cars. On average, modded EP3 Civic SI's are 14-15 second cars. On average, modded Integra GSR's are 14-15 second cars. 1 second is as much as 2-3 car lengths in the 14-18 second range on the 1/4 mile.

I call it bragging when you run across some random car on the street, pass it, and then go off on how slow they are and such, and how much credit your econo-box engine deserves. If you look at other tuner communities and look at their relative averages, perhaps then you can start to make a guess what would really happen if these two cars really raced. Bench racing based on remote guesses and then bragging about it bugs me...

Also... since we're talking drag racing... it doesn't take much skill, and since it's bench racing, let's assume the drivers are all equal. If you're trying to compare drivers, not engines, a pinto can smoke a ferrai if the driver's a monkey. That makes as much sense as trying to compare drivers you don't know anything about.