2.4L 2ZZ-GE, Can you? Options

[JoKeRkId613]

Okay, my brother has a Scion tC. 2.4L 2AZ-FE. Is it possible to put the GE head from a 1.8L 2ZZ-GE Celica GT-S? That way, it would be a 2.4L 2ZZ-GE. I know it's not the same series but I figure the AZ and the ZZ are similar. I'm guessing you can't. Let me know what you guys think. If you can't, then please tell me why. Thanks.

I know this really has nothing to do with a 6GC. But my brother wanted to know. It's a Toyota engine and I mentioned a Celica. Lol. I know you guys know a lot about hybrid engines and things because of the 7A-GE but this one's more complicated. Thanks.

[celica3sgte]

First off it's not that easy to find bolt patterns on heads and blocks. Kwanza you need to just not post here if you're gonna reply with something like that. This is a FORUM!!! It's made for people to ask questions and obviously you are gonna get people on here who won't know as much as others. Completely uncalled for. But then again I've seen you reply like that many of times I doubt you'll change. Do you feel that you're far superior than anyone on this forum. If you feel that way then why bash someone. Hate to whore up the thread but Kwanza is such a chode.

[Kwanza26]

First off it's not that easy to find bolt patterns on heads and blocks.  Kwanza you need to just not post here if you're gonna reply with something like that.  This is a FORUM!!!  It's made for people to ask questions and obviously you are gonna get people on here who won't know as much as others.  Completely uncalled for.  But then again I've seen you reply like that many of times I doubt you'll change.  Do you feel that you're far superior than anyone on this forum.  If you feel that way then why bash someone.  Hate to whore up the thread but Kwanza is such a chode.
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Well... like i keep saying... you're entitled to your opinions... however simple they may be. It's not even a superiority complex... because I like things short and sweet, and I could care less what people think. As far as heads and blocks go... like mentioned who knows how many countless times before... it's a matter of looking before you leap. The Block family codes alone would tell any person with common sense which block and head can mate up. Hell, in some cases, even heads from the same family of blocks don't swap over without mods (3SGE heads onto some 5SFE blocks). As for acting like a chode... yeah, I admit I'm not the nicest guy here, willing to entertain people's wild ideas. I'm a realist... what can I say... but I'd hardly say any of my comments are "uncalled for"... at least I haven't resorted to name calling...

I was just asking because I don't know anything about engines. I've never done engine swaps, heck, I've never personally changed my own oil. The only thing I've done myself on my car is put in new spark plugs, a cold air intake and nitrous. And I didn't even spray at that, just purge. So I wouldn't know to look at the bolt pattern because I don't even know where to start looking. Sorry about that. Coomer should post engine knowledge requirements so that I can know how much knowledge about engines I have to have so that people don't get pissed. Like someone here said, it's a forum.

Boy... a renewed sense pride now eh? This is why I'm annoyed. You take a statment and turn it to whatever suits you. As evidence: you made this posting asking a basic question about 7AGE's. Evidently you weren't too sure... and you were told in a blunt fashion, "the whole idea behind a 7AGE conversion is to maintain larger displacement." After that, you were told to do "research"... instead you take that answer and run away with it, as evident here. All you gathered from that topic was "take a high performance head, slap it on a big displacement block and gain best of both worlds." That's the sort of thing that annoys me. You made a problem out of an answer because you didn't research or think about anything beforehand.

Kwanza, I used to think you were cool because you knew all these things and I've seen your posts on other topics. But damn, you're a straight up jerk. And if that's not the word, then excuse my french, but you're still an idiot. I don't care how much you know about cars. Your attitude towards things are worse than my neighbor. And that's not a good thing, trust me. You can respond back to this because you are just that sad, but everyone will see that you're an ass. It's like if I'm teaching my sister how to drive and she's never driven before and she asks me what happens if she holds the brake and gas pedal down at the same time and I tell her she's a dumbass for saying that. The kid doesn't know how the brake and accelerater work so I would simply explain to her what would happen and the reason for it.

Like I said before... I don't really care what you or anyone else thinks of me good or bad. Everyone is on level ground with me. Hell, if tomorrow you have a question and hit me up on AIM... I won't hold anything said here against you. That's not the kinda person I am... and I will respond because I think most people would in effort to defend themselves. At the very least, I'm not gonna call you names.

You know what, forget it, you're an artist and the fifty other careers in your profile. I don't want to make your head bigger than I can see it already is. Good luck.

I'd hardly call them careers... hobbies perhaps. Don't try and get personal either... cause that's barking up the wrong tree.

This is disappointing. I'm sorry, but Kwanza....I think this should be your warning of sorts from us all that treating everyone on the forum like an insignificant peon due to your "incredible motor sense" and their obvious goal of "annoying you" is really getting old.

I don't treat people like that. If that's all you're getting... you're reading the wrong posts. I treat people the way they ask to be treated (not in a literal sense). I don't sugar coat things. If that's too much for you... sorry. If they make an effort to clash with me in a dignified way, I welcome it (fallenhero in the past, darksecret, lagos, supersprynt, just to name a few). As opinionated as each of us were, or as you refer it, high and mighty, there is still general respect. Might seem high and mighty that I would be the one to always catch the most heat, but I always expect it cause I'm not looking to appease people. As for these posts being my warning... I've yet to heed the warning. From my point of view... people will jump at the chance at having a reason to jar with me. Especially those "nice" ones whos think "i'm too mean..."

It's good that you think highly enough of yourself to have a clear-cut answer for every question asked in a discussion forum, but I think that you might want to use that knowledge next time to give a well-educated and understandibly reasoned explanation for WHY it won't work if you say it won't.

Heh... nothing is clear cut, but simple answers are always there. It's not what I think of myself or anyone else... it's common sense. Put some thought into something before hand... you'll be surprised how detailed of answers some of the people here can give. Take for example... I remember giving nik a hard time when he first started asking questions about 7AGTE builds. First his questions were very basic general questions... then as I pushed him... his general questions became specific questions (because unlike some, he listened and researched)... and he got a lot of detailed answers. He too had some pretty interesting ideas, for one, using a B18 turbo manifold on a 4AG head. Most would dismiss that, but because there was a certain logic to his reasoning... and since I had a couple of B18 headers floating around my, I confirmed his idea and it turned out well.

And sorry to come off like some sort of prick, but its obvious that the situation is detrimental to the common goal of members seeking knowledge on this forum, and perhaps the better method would be to leave all ego aside and give good factual advice to the member if you decide you're calm enough to reply.

I'm always calm. I also appreciate your response, because at the very least, you've held your composure and chose not to name-call. It's not even about ego. Ego doesn't have much say when things are really cut and dry, as in this case. I could refrence some past discussions when there was more ego involved... but that wouldn't matter too much. Let's just say... I know where I'm strong, and I know where I'm weak. I wouldn't undermind say, pressure2 or lagos's advice when it comes to boosting... In the end, I treat questions, and/or the people who ask them, the same way as they ask their questions.

Anyway... twas fun. I'm gonna be gone till the weekend... so try not to disappoint.