 3s head on 5s |
 Aug 3, 2005 - 10:07 PM
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I got some extra cash laying around just waiting to be spent on my car. So I was thinking on puttting a 3S head on my 5S. Has anyone done this before?
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Aug 18, 2005 - 11:50 AM
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Understand that a 5SGTE swap would be no different than a 3SGTE swap. You will have to use the 3SGTE wiring, ecu, and electronics. Also, I will add... the MR2 guys who made 600 some odd horsepower do not do it solely because they have a 5SGTE. Understand that the head only changes the horsepower characteristic... but the power maker is the turbo. If you build up the 5S bottom-end... even the FE head can make that power with boost. Take for example Paradise Racing's drag AE86. 8 second 1/4 mile car with a stock FE head and built bottom-end. A typical 5SGTE build will probably yeild less power but more torque than a regular 3SGTE mostly because of the displacement... the only major difference the head will provide would be the power delivery. The 3SGTE will always have a better top-end because of the 5S block's geometry.
Also know... that sort of power doesn't make a car very streetable or reliable. -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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Aug 18, 2005 - 3:48 PM
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Aug 18, 2005 - 11:50 AM) A typical 5SGTE build will probably yeild less power.... The 3SGTE will always have a better top-end because of the 5S block's geometry. [right][snapback]325519[/snapback][/right] Can you explain these two sentences in greater detail please? What are the geometric differences you speak of and why do those differences result in less horsepower for a higher displacement engine? -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Boss-Celica 3s head on 5s Aug 3, 2005 - 10:07 PM
jgreening Its been done. Try a search under 5sgte. Aug 3, 2005 - 10:12 PM Consynx there's a sticky at MR2oc for this i believe. Aug 3, 2005 - 10:32 PM DG_Performance i was actually starting to do it and did not have ... Aug 3, 2005 - 10:34 PM
Boss-Celica QUOTE(DG_Performance @ Aug 3, 2005 - 11:34 PM... Aug 4, 2005 - 8:25 AM DG_Performance if you buy it this week i will throw in a new set ... Aug 4, 2005 - 8:48 AM elvasoshexai people have done it on camrys... and apparently la... Aug 5, 2005 - 1:52 PM Punch here it is in a nut shell.
get a 3sgte head gask... Aug 6, 2005 - 10:23 AM Punch any 1 plan to try it ??? Aug 9, 2005 - 1:28 AM DG_Performance I almost did it but had to stop due to other issue... Aug 9, 2005 - 9:57 AM Punch I know its pretty simple if I do it build another... Aug 9, 2005 - 6:29 PM DG_Performance well, i have the fresh rebuilt head and some new h... Aug 9, 2005 - 10:18 PM Punch sounds good, I might do it also!!! Aug 9, 2005 - 11:06 PM Punch If I do this I will be the first 1 to have a 2.2 3... Aug 16, 2005 - 11:44 AM Punch will I get a spot on the front page(Featured Ride... Aug 16, 2005 - 11:45 AM blackbullet i came across this guy selling a 3s head on a 5s b... Aug 16, 2005 - 12:46 PM Punch If you get it for that, make sure thats all good.... Aug 16, 2005 - 4:50 PM Boss-Celica With a 3s head on a 5s and HKS cams you could easi... Aug 16, 2005 - 5:05 PM hisashi94gtst204 hasn't the 5sgte already been built by people ... Aug 16, 2005 - 10:52 PM RUNNIN-LOW yeah ive been planning on doing the project so yea... Aug 16, 2005 - 11:21 PM Boss-Celica I've got the money to do it, I am just not rea... Aug 17, 2005 - 8:37 AM 95silvergt ok so if i get a 3s head i need to get the rods an... Aug 17, 2005 - 9:48 AM presure2 one thing you guys havent mentioned is how your go... Aug 17, 2005 - 11:03 AM Boss-Celica QUOTE(presure2 @ Aug 17, 2005 - 12:03 PM)one ... Aug 17, 2005 - 10:35 PM Kwanza26 QUOTE(jgreening @ Aug 18, 2005 - 8:48 PM)QUOT... Aug 18, 2005 - 4:22 PM Jdog1385 QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Aug 18, 2005 - 5:22 PM)QUOTE... Aug 19, 2005 - 3:32 PM Punch so you're telling everyone more displacement ... Aug 18, 2005 - 3:09 PM Kwanza26 QUOTE(Punch @ Aug 18, 2005 - 8:09 PM)so you a... Aug 18, 2005 - 3:27 PM Boss-Celica Theres no replacement for displacement . Hes basic... Aug 18, 2005 - 4:12 PM Punch $$$ talks
the big displacement wil... Aug 18, 2005 - 4:34 PM jgreening Thanks for the post Kwanza but it sure is couunter... Aug 18, 2005 - 5:35 PM presure2 ahhh i LOVE this stuff. EXCELLENT post, kwanza.
n... Aug 18, 2005 - 7:19 PM Kwanza26 QUOTE(presure2 @ Aug 19, 2005 - 12:19 AM)ahhh... Aug 26, 2005 - 6:26 PM Punch this is a massage I got from jim :
3S oil and wa... Aug 19, 2005 - 2:06 AM GMan > Punch
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>If do thi... Aug 20, 2005 - 7:58 PM Punch thew link does not work Aug 21, 2005 - 12:45 AM Punch I saw that car run a 8.5 at moroso
that car is a... Aug 22, 2005 - 1:08 AM Punch I did my home work on that car. It was built for d... Aug 23, 2005 - 11:50 PM defgeph punch any more pics of that car or maybe a website... Aug 24, 2005 - 12:16 AM Punch only pic... Aug 24, 2005 - 11:57 AM Boss-Celica I think I am probably going to do this project but... Aug 24, 2005 - 9:52 PM Punch I will do it soon so we can go hand and hand.... Aug 25, 2005 - 9:52 AM Boss-Celica Excellent. Aug 25, 2005 - 9:38 PM DG_Performance i still got that rebuilt 3s head .... i will let ... Aug 26, 2005 - 5:10 PM Punch additional torque on that 3s head with the turbo ... Aug 28, 2005 - 11:16 PM Boss-Celica If I put a 3s head on my 5s but I don't want t... Aug 30, 2005 - 8:50 AM Kwanza26 QUOTE(Punch @ Aug 29, 2005 - 4:16 AM)addition... Sep 1, 2005 - 10:34 AM Punch hope thats not a hit at me Kwanza26 ...
I done th... Sep 1, 2005 - 6:40 PM Kwanza26 QUOTE(Punch @ Sep 1, 2005 - 11:40 PM)hope tha... Sep 1, 2005 - 9:39 PM Punch LOL say what you will people seen what I've d... Sep 12, 2005 - 1:04 PM Boss-Celica QUOTE(Punch @ Sep 12, 2005 - 2:04 PM)LOL say ... Sep 12, 2005 - 9:34 PM DeW_H0e_GT maybe a how to + parts ????...jus a thought Sep 13, 2005 - 6:14 PM Punch thats not bad idea... Sep 14, 2005 - 12:31 AM Jdog1385 QUOTELOL say what you will people seen what I... Sep 14, 2005 - 10:08 PM Punch more power to him... Sep 16, 2005 - 8:26 PM BLADDER_MASTER Eh, I'm actually in agreement with Punch's... Sep 16, 2005 - 8:58 PM Punch thanks BLADDER_MASTER you should come by the shop... Sep 16, 2005 - 9:25 PM Punch check out som of the we do... Sep 18, 2005 - 11:08 PM BLADDER_MASTER Cool. I'll PM you when i'll be able to pas... Sep 18, 2005 - 11:38 PM Punch cool Sep 20, 2005 - 12:21 AM Punch If any on want to do this I also have a stock 3sgt... Sep 20, 2005 - 1:20 PM Boss-Celica I'll keep you posted if I am still going to do... Sep 20, 2005 - 5:11 PM Punch I can all so get a nonturbo head if you want Sep 24, 2005 - 9:44 AM Punch let me know if you want it... Oct 3, 2005 - 11:14 AM funnys_tears i like to know about what if you use a manual 3sg... Mar 9, 2006 - 1:36 PM celi_gt_racer awww please tell me english isn't your first l... Mar 9, 2006 - 11:58 PM ice23q well let me tell you first hand....just putting a ... Mar 10, 2006 - 2:00 AM BBoYRuGGeD QUOTE(ice23q @ Mar 10, 2006 - 7:00 A... Mar 10, 2006 - 2:34 AM Punch QUOTE(ice23q @ Mar 10, 2006 - 7:00 A... Mar 10, 2006 - 11:57 AM funnys_tears [s]yeah this is my 4 langauge i speak hmong, lao, ... Mar 11, 2006 - 9:37 AM scothaniel QUOTE my problem is the oil filter placement ..I... Mar 13, 2006 - 7:43 PM Punch port for the waste gate Mar 26, 2006 - 1:28 PM ice23q here is how i did my oil feed from the block......... Apr 6, 2006 - 5:44 PM presure2 QUOTE(ice23q @ Apr 6, 2006 - 6:44 PM... Apr 7, 2006 - 6:51 PM Punch yours are a bute!!!! I'm gonna... Apr 7, 2006 - 6:44 PM Punch thats JUST the way it should be done....... where ... Apr 8, 2006 - 3:22 AM presure2 you can get all those AN lines and fittings from s... Apr 8, 2006 - 9:13 AM ice23q i know i live in australia and things can get a li... Apr 8, 2006 - 3:49 PM qmoney10457 Hey, I'm very interested in buying the head... Apr 8, 2006 - 7:10 PM Punch the 3s head will fit the 5s block not the 7a.... Apr 13, 2006 - 2:16 PM mywhite94celicagt ok ice23q, why do u need the
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3s oil... Apr 14, 2006 - 3:45 PM Punch I used 5sfe .60 over piston 3egte oil pump, water ... Apr 14, 2006 - 4:45 PM ice23q The number of teeth on the 5s pumps and the pully ... Apr 15, 2006 - 3:16 AM Punch whats the price on them over there??? Apr 20, 2006 - 2:19 AM trey_135 SRRY TO BUST BUBBLES HERE BUTS ITS BEEN DONE BEFOR... Apr 20, 2006 - 2:54 AM playr158 QUOTE(trey_135 @ Apr 20, 2006 - 3:54... Apr 20, 2006 - 2:48 PM celi_gt_racer and we better respect this guy's motor buildin... Apr 20, 2006 - 3:14 PM playr158 QUOTE(celi_gt_racer @ Apr 20, 2006 - 4... Apr 20, 2006 - 3:57 PM ice23q QUOTE(trey_135 @ Apr 20, 2006 - 5:54... Apr 20, 2006 - 6:44 PM Boss-Celica QUOTE(ice23q @ Apr 20, 2006 - 7:44 P... Apr 20, 2006 - 9:30 PM Punch help dont hate...
Thats what the site is for ... Apr 21, 2006 - 10:55 AM celi_gt_racer you started it dan Apr 21, 2006 - 11:23 AM playr158 QUOTE(celi_gt_racer @ Apr 21, 2006 - 12... Apr 22, 2006 - 12:01 PM ice23q The only update is that im not happy with the guy ... Apr 23, 2006 - 7:36 PM urbandork you have insipred me to build one Apr 25, 2006 - 1:37 AM celi_gt_racer any update? May 1, 2006 - 9:22 AM Punch got my 5sgte started today but i got a big vacum l... Jul 22, 2006 - 2:59 AM ice23q Well done Punch... Its been like a race to the moo... Jul 23, 2006 - 3:32 AM |
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