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post Sep 12, 2005 - 7:08 PM
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i have a 94 st with 200k miles on it, and i need to do somethiong fast, dont wanna go all out with the gte engine cuz i know whats involve but the 20v black top seems like a lot of fun, i know it lacks low end torque but arent there certain upgrades to bring that up a bit to make it more of a reasonable daily driver? should i? or should i just get the gze engine. the black top would be cheaper for me though
 
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post Sep 13, 2005 - 1:35 AM
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QUOTE(JoKeRkId613 @ Sep 12, 2005 - 5:20 PM)
DO IT! :-) It's always cool to say you have a supercharger and everything but the 20V blacktop is awesome. go for it. i think you'd be the first with the blacktop in a celi. then i'll be the second! lol. i think theres like 5 silvertops and 2 gze's in 6GC's. by the way, where did you find a blacktop front clip for cheaper than a gze? over here, gze's are cheaper.
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I only count two running ones, and then soulshadow's car which isn't running right yet. Who else has the silvertop in their sixth gens?

QUOTE(soulshadow @ Sep 12, 2005 - 6:25 PM)
6 speed's are really nice. Get those tranny if you can. You could probbaly even run open throttles since you have a MAP instead of the usual MAF.
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The six-speed is pretty hard to come by and expensive, but I hear it's a good tranny. And yes, you could run open velocity stacks with the blacktop ECU.

QUOTE(o8poa8o @ Sep 12, 2005 - 7:04 PM)
also later in life if you need more speed, aren't blacktops easier to turbocharge?
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In a sense, yes, because there's no AFM on the blacktop. However, The blacktop 4A-GE has weaker, lighter internals which can't take boost as well as silvertop internals.


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post Sep 13, 2005 - 5:01 PM
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QUOTE(Coomer @ Sep 13, 2005 - 1:35 AM)
QUOTE(JoKeRkId613 @ Sep 12, 2005 - 5:20 PM)
DO IT! :-) It's always cool to say you have a supercharger and everything but the 20V blacktop is awesome. go for it. i think you'd be the first with the blacktop in a celi. then i'll be the second! lol. i think theres like 5 silvertops and 2 gze's in 6GC's. by the way, where did you find a blacktop front clip for cheaper than a gze? over here, gze's are cheaper.
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I only count two running ones, and then soulshadow's car which isn't running right yet. Who else has the silvertop in their sixth gens?

QUOTE(soulshadow @ Sep 12, 2005 - 6:25 PM)
6 speed's are really nice. Get those tranny if you can. You could probbaly even run open throttles since you have a MAP instead of the usual MAF.
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The six-speed is pretty hard to come by and expensive, but I hear it's a good tranny. And yes, you could run open velocity stacks with the blacktop ECU.

QUOTE(o8poa8o @ Sep 12, 2005 - 7:04 PM)
also later in life if you need more speed, aren't blacktops easier to turbocharge?
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In a sense, yes, because there's no AFM on the blacktop. However, The blacktop 4A-GE has weaker, lighter internals which can't take boost as well as silvertop internals.
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Posts in this topic
- quicknstyle   4age black top   Sep 12, 2005 - 7:08 PM
- - JoKeRkId613   DO IT! :-) It's always cool to say you hav...   Sep 12, 2005 - 7:20 PM
- - soulshadow   6 speed's are really nice. Get those tranny if...   Sep 12, 2005 - 8:25 PM
- - o8poa8o   also later in life if you need more speed, aren...   Sep 12, 2005 - 9:04 PM
- - Coomer   QUOTE(JoKeRkId613 @ Sep 12, 2005 - 5:20 PM)DO...   Sep 13, 2005 - 1:35 AM
|- - soulshadow   QUOTE(Coomer @ Sep 13, 2005 - 1:35 AM)QUOTE(J...   Sep 13, 2005 - 5:01 PM
- - quicknstyle   hey coomer, i remember talking to you about this a...   Sep 13, 2005 - 7:55 AM
- - Coomer   The lack of low end power is very noticable. Off t...   Sep 13, 2005 - 10:26 AM
- - nik   QUOTE(quicknstyle @ Sep 13, 2005 - 5:55 AM)he...   Sep 13, 2005 - 12:45 PM
- - nik   if you want more info you should check club4ag.com...   Sep 13, 2005 - 5:06 PM
- - JoKeRkId613   what is dli again? i forgot. i remember seeing it ...   Nov 3, 2005 - 4:45 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(JoKeRkId613 @ Nov 3, 2005 - 2:45 PM)wha...   Nov 3, 2005 - 4:56 PM
- - nik   hey coomer do you know how the blacktop internals ...   Nov 3, 2005 - 4:59 PM
- - JoKeRkId613   sounds pretty easy to me   Nov 3, 2005 - 5:14 PM
- - 94ST2   How much hp potential does a 4agze engine have if ...   Nov 3, 2005 - 10:47 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(94ST2 @ Nov 3, 2005 - 8:47 PM)How much ...   Nov 4, 2005 - 11:02 AM
- - 94ST2   Thats what I figured just was wondering if anyone ...   Nov 4, 2005 - 2:12 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(94ST2 @ Nov 4, 2005 - 12:12 PM)Thats wh...   Nov 4, 2005 - 2:23 PM
- - jdg371   havent they tried using the Previa s/c I think its...   Nov 4, 2005 - 2:40 PM
- - JoKeRkId613   Never heard about the Previa thing. Sounds possibl...   Nov 4, 2005 - 2:46 PM
- - nik   QUOTE(JoKeRkId613 @ Nov 4, 2005 - 12:46 PM)Ne...   Nov 4, 2005 - 3:57 PM


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