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> If anyone tells you torque doesn't mean anything, Then explain this
post Sep 23, 2005 - 8:44 AM
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?se...4&page_number=1

For the stock RSX owners here, unless you plan on running around at 7,000rpm I wouldn't try running the new Cobalt SS.
 
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post Sep 26, 2005 - 7:47 PM
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Yeah the Ecotec sucks huh, tell that to John Lingenfelter and his 6 second stock block Ecotec Cavalier pushing over 1,000hp, or So-Cal's 700+ hp Ion, wait did I hear an iVTEC (wonder what the "i" is for) screaming to make 600 hp, oh wait thats normal. I will say the RSX is more refined but the Cobalt isn't running the standard Chevy Tupperware interior like the rest and when you consider the RSX can easily hit in the high $20's after a few options, i'll choose the underdog.
post Sep 26, 2005 - 8:05 PM
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QUOTE(darksecret @ Sep 27, 2005 - 12:47 AM)
Yeah the Ecotec sucks huh, tell that to John Lingenfelter and his 6 second stock block Ecotec Cavalier pushing over 1,000hp, or So-Cal's 700+ hp Ion, wait did I hear an iVTEC (wonder what the "i" is for) screaming to make 600 hp, oh wait thats normal. I will say the RSX is more refined but the Cobalt isn't running the standard Chevy Tupperware interior like the rest and when you consider the RSX can easily hit in the high $20's after a few options, i'll choose the underdog.
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The ecotec is a very solid motor. A nice peice of GM engineering to say the least... but it's still more or less an economy designed motor originally making 140-145 hp in the 2.2 liter trim. Like I said previously... an econo motor with a supercharger slapped on. Luckily the ecotec is quite beefy...

Your argument against the Honda cars however seem more bias than anything based on knowledge or facts. FYI... there are several people at clubrsx running 12-15 psi of boost on the K20's stock internals (with stock 11:1 compression). I have a set of K20 rods... and comparatively speaking, these rods rival those of SR20's and such. Also note... don't compare an n/a "screaming" Honda motor to a force induced motor. Obviously the motor has to scream if it's a true sports n/a motor. Just look at the F1 racecars... screaming at 20,000 rpms n/a. Even our shop's K20A powered EP3 Civic can run in the mid 13 second range on a mild street tune.

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Posts in this topic
- darksecret   If anyone tells you torque doesn't mean anything   Sep 23, 2005 - 8:44 AM
- - Akimbo   a greddy turbo kit will solve that.   Sep 23, 2005 - 3:07 PM
- - darksecret   Yeah but this is stock for stock, tuning the Cobal...   Sep 23, 2005 - 3:28 PM
- - Consynx   eh, cobalt is all right i'd def take a RSX ove...   Sep 23, 2005 - 3:39 PM
- - darksecret   Yeah it suprised me also, especially seeing how th...   Sep 23, 2005 - 3:45 PM
- - FallenHero   well, lets face it, while the SS looks like a chev...   Sep 25, 2005 - 4:22 PM
- - ArizonaRed   does anybody know what the Scion Tc will put out w...   Sep 25, 2005 - 4:36 PM
- - FallenHero   turbocharged,,, another supercharger... put NOS on...   Sep 25, 2005 - 4:46 PM
- - Galcobar   The funny thing is, horsepower is a calculation ba...   Sep 25, 2005 - 5:10 PM
- - Kwanza26   Gotta understand what horsepower is before you try...   Sep 25, 2005 - 11:07 PM
- - darksecret   Yeah weight, traction, blah, blah, blah even R...   Sep 26, 2005 - 9:40 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(darksecret @ Sep 26, 2005 - 2:40 PM)Yea...   Sep 26, 2005 - 7:58 PM
- - bonzaisushi   K series motor is an incredible motor built by hon...   Sep 26, 2005 - 12:54 PM
|- - FallenHero   QUOTE(bonzaisushi @ Sep 26, 2005 - 10:54 AM)K...   Sep 26, 2005 - 5:57 PM
- - 97sccelica   i'd take a cobalt SS/SC over an RSX type S any...   Sep 26, 2005 - 1:15 PM
- - ArizonaRed   i think chevy cavalier/ pontiac sunfire is garbage...   Sep 26, 2005 - 2:13 PM
- - darksecret   Yeah the Ecotec sucks huh, tell that to John Linge...   Sep 26, 2005 - 7:47 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(darksecret @ Sep 27, 2005 - 12:47 AM)Ye...   Sep 26, 2005 - 8:05 PM
- - Consynx   only thing i see a SC being better than a turbo on...   Sep 26, 2005 - 8:56 PM
|- - FallenHero   QUOTE(Consynx @ Sep 26, 2005 - 6:56 PM)only t...   Sep 27, 2005 - 2:08 AM
- - darksecret   Good point Kwanza, but remember the SS does have a...   Sep 27, 2005 - 9:22 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(darksecret @ Sep 27, 2005 - 2:22 PM)You...   Sep 27, 2005 - 10:47 AM
- - FallenHero   GM makes plenty of performance Na engines.... they...   Sep 27, 2005 - 1:11 PM
- - darksecret   Of course they never bothered with fours until the...   Sep 27, 2005 - 1:16 PM


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