Sep 21, 2005 - 1:52 AM
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What is the best Naturally Aspired engine for toyota?
I hear beams and silver top thrown around. But what is the BEST? Which one has the most power to weight ratio? Most power after modifications? Is the 7th gen gts engine the best n/a engine toyota offers? |
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Sep 26, 2005 - 7:11 PM
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QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Sep 23, 2005 - 10:23 PM) If Toyota would only put a newer improved version with a wider lift range and put it in a Scion or Toyota sport coupe it would be great, but it appears its no longer in Toyotas interest. [right][snapback]337812[/snapback][/right] Heh. Toyota doesn't seem to know much anymore about sporty cars. I mean, cancelling the Celica, bringing in the ugly Scion xA, B, and C, esp. the first two with their *gasp* 105 horses and styling every bit as bad as the echo. Now the xC does have some speed potential, but it's loaded with luxo options and can't touch a Celica of any vintage for looks. Oh, offtopic. Sorry. BTW, the idea of the 190 hp out of 1.8 L is crazy, but it certainly fits the Lotus Elise. As a daily driver I'm sure it feels pedestrian. I like the feel of having an engine's ship come in at about 3-4k. -------------------- |
Sep 28, 2005 - 1:21 PM
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QUOTE(jess_i_74 @ Sep 27, 2005 - 12:11 AM) QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Sep 23, 2005 - 10:23 PM) If Toyota would only put a newer improved version with a wider lift range and put it in a Scion or Toyota sport coupe it would be great, but it appears its no longer in Toyotas interest. [right][snapback]337812[/snapback][/right] Heh. Toyota doesn't seem to know much anymore about sporty cars. I mean, cancelling the Celica, bringing in the ugly Scion xA, B, and C, esp. the first two with their *gasp* 105 horses and styling every bit as bad as the echo. Now the xC does have some speed potential, but it's loaded with luxo options and can't touch a Celica of any vintage for looks. Oh, offtopic. Sorry. BTW, the idea of the 190 hp out of 1.8 L is crazy, but it certainly fits the Lotus Elise. As a daily driver I'm sure it feels pedestrian. I like the feel of having an engine's ship come in at about 3-4k. [right][snapback]338544[/snapback][/right] "Toyota doesn't seem to know much anymore about sporty cars??" For real, years ago, Toyota began to join the world's fastest auto race--Formula One. Toyota began to process and make everything for their rides, such as frame, engine, aero, and even small as a screw in their Formula One race car. I think Toyota is not a stupid to spend so much their technologies and effort for this ****ing long time in this challenge F-1 race world, right? Let's see, guys. Toyota should be release a super race car at a right time... On the other hand, so do u think Honda is a sport car specialist? Yea, Honda's cars ar fast on Street, and even on some division 2 race around the world, such as JGTC GT-300, Super-Taikyu..... But the reason is can u see any NSX or S2000 can win some division 1 race on the workd, I can tell u the answer is "NEVER!" Moreover, due to Toyota is the second-largest auto manufacturer in the world, his market goal is for all consumers, so Toyota seems to release more luxury and comfortable cars than sport cars. That's why the reason Honda can't catch up Toyota's sales in the world, and even Toyota's technologies....... V-tech and i-Vtech ar so good at all, but VVTi and VVTL-i ar kind of more Hi-tech a bit than the former.... Coz the technology on VVTi and VVTL-i ar on both intake sides when it's running, but Honda's V-tech and EVEN i-Vtech ar only on one intake side. So Toyota's race technologies ar directly comeing from their valuable F-1 experience, and even their consumers all over the world...... |
Sep 28, 2005 - 6:25 PM
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QUOTE(ST-204 @ Sep 28, 2005 - 6:21 PM) V-tech and i-Vtech ar so good at all, but VVTi and VVTL-i ar kind of more Hi-tech a bit than the former.... Coz the technology on VVTi and VVTL-i ar on both intake sides when it's running, but Honda's V-tech and EVEN i-Vtech ar only on one intake side. So Toyota's race technologies ar directly comeing from their valuable F-1 experience, and even their consumers all over the world...... [right][snapback]339122[/snapback][/right] You should just apologize and admit you don't know what you're talking about. You should also work on your grammar and spelling. -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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Hanyo best N/A engine Sep 21, 2005 - 1:52 AM
FallenHero Probably is the 2zz for power and reliability. Ho... Sep 21, 2005 - 1:54 AM
orvillescelica 3sge beams black top, but youll never find one in ... Sep 21, 2005 - 1:55 AM
ST-204 Nope, it has one swapped 3S-GE "BEAMS"-b... Sep 21, 2005 - 1:59 AM
Coomer I've heard bad things about the 2ZZ-GE's d... Sep 21, 2005 - 2:05 AM
Hanyo i always thought the beams engine was the best, Be... Sep 21, 2005 - 2:05 AM
Dr_Tweak QUOTE(Hanyo @ Sep 21, 2005 - 7:05 AM)i always... Sep 21, 2005 - 2:41 AM
macavely power to weight that has to dowith the chasie and ... Sep 21, 2005 - 8:38 AM
Akimbo beams or 2zz...the 2zz ran a 13.7 with I/E/H, I do... Sep 21, 2005 - 11:38 AM
FallenHero 2zz is whp per ltr.and that 13.7 was with drag sli... Sep 21, 2005 - 11:42 AM
boosted_K2 depends what you are talking about... car+motor fa... Sep 21, 2005 - 11:53 AM
Coomer QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Sep 21, 2005 - 9:53 AM)dep... Sep 21, 2005 - 12:49 PM
BLADDER_MASTER QUOTE(Coomer @ Sep 21, 2005 - 12:49 PM)QUOTE(... Sep 21, 2005 - 2:45 PM
Boss-Celica Beams 3s or 20v 4age Sep 21, 2005 - 12:09 PM
95CelicaST Beams, no doubt. 4 cylinder with 210HP stock (redt... Sep 21, 2005 - 1:18 PM
Shigexile QUOTE(95CelicaST @ Sep 21, 2005 - 12:18 PM)Be... Sep 21, 2005 - 1:32 PM
pokemeintheeye I know everyones talking bout the blacktop Beams, ... Sep 21, 2005 - 3:56 PM
ST-204 But IMO,
I do think Honda F-20C, B-18C and K-20A e... Sep 21, 2005 - 6:35 PM
Shigexile QUOTE(ST-204 @ Sep 21, 2005 - 5:35 PM)Bu... Sep 21, 2005 - 8:19 PM
ST-204 QUOTE(Shigexile @ Sep 22, 2005 - 1:19 AM)QUOT... Sep 21, 2005 - 11:21 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE(ST-204 @ Sep 22, 2005 - 4:21 AM)Ye... Sep 22, 2005 - 4:28 AM
FallenHero QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 22, 2005 - 2:28 AM)QUOTE... Sep 22, 2005 - 1:08 PM
boosted_K2 yea sorry i meant redtop, not blacktop i was looki... Sep 21, 2005 - 11:13 PM
Hanyo who fast is a 6gc with the 2zz swap?
isn't th... Sep 23, 2005 - 6:28 PM
jdg371 the 3.5 v6 (IS350) sounds like a crazy arse N/A mo... Sep 23, 2005 - 9:05 PM
Silver94CelicaOwner I really like the 2ZZGE alot, its a very fun motor... Sep 23, 2005 - 9:23 PM
SSJChar what are the specs on the 2zz engine? how easy/ha... Sep 24, 2005 - 2:50 PM
jdg371 I thought the 2ZZ was more expensive than a 2nd ge... Sep 24, 2005 - 3:39 PM
bonzaisushi Aluminum is for pop cans give me a 3s or 4a Sep 25, 2005 - 7:26 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE(bonzaisushi @ Sep 26, 2005 - 12:26 AM)A... Sep 25, 2005 - 10:52 PM
BLADDER_MASTER QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 25, 2005 - 10:52 PM)QUOT... Sep 26, 2005 - 2:36 AM
Celica_Fan Best engine 3S-GE That sounds mean as when it... Sep 26, 2005 - 2:38 AM
recneps im gonna pop in here and say 2zz-ge, im biased.
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BLADDER_MASTER QUOTE(recneps @ Sep 26, 2005 - 10:32 AM)im go... Sep 26, 2005 - 2:58 PM
Shigexile QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 25, 2005 - 9:52 PM)QUOTE... Sep 26, 2005 - 1:18 PM
BLADDER_MASTER QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 28, 2005 - 6:25 PM)QUOTE... Sep 28, 2005 - 7:26 PM
Celicaguy13 When talking about the 3sge beams vs 2zz-ge, all o... Sep 30, 2005 - 1:09 AM
Shigexile QUOTE(Celicaguy13 @ Sep 30, 2005 - 12:09 AM)W... Sep 30, 2005 - 8:38 AM
BLADDER_MASTER QUOTE(Shigexile @ Sep 30, 2005 - 8:38 AM)QUOT... Sep 30, 2005 - 2:47 PM
macavely QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Sep 30, 2005 - 2:47 PM... Sep 30, 2005 - 3:40 PM
BLADDER_MASTER QUOTE(macavely @ Sep 30, 2005 - 3:40 PM)QUOTE... Sep 30, 2005 - 7:26 PM
Shigexile QUOTE(Celicaguy13 @ Sep 30, 2005 - 12:09 AM)A... Sep 30, 2005 - 8:42 AM
Celicaguy13 The elise is the one that has 190. I honestly don... Sep 30, 2005 - 5:01 PM
Shigexile QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Sep 30, 2005 - 1:47 PM... Sep 30, 2005 - 7:13 PM
macavely still thats not bad.... something to think about w... Sep 30, 2005 - 8:18 PM
Kwanza26 200ps is like 195hp... whoopie! 5hp more than... Sep 30, 2005 - 10:45 PM
Celicaguy13 QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 30, 2005 - 10:45 PM)200p... Oct 1, 2005 - 1:22 AM
Bigmeanbulldog55 QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 30, 2005 - 11:45 PM)You ... Oct 1, 2005 - 1:45 AM
Celicaguy13 QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Oct 1, 2005 - 1:45 A... Oct 1, 2005 - 1:55 AM
Celicaguy13 By the way, sorry for being a dick. Oct 1, 2005 - 2:01 AM
Hanyo BUMP FROM THE DEAD!!!
how much poten... Oct 13, 2005 - 3:03 AM
macavely with any engine the potential is found by failuer ... Oct 13, 2005 - 3:11 AM
Hanyo i know the ge head and the 11 compression ratio wi... Oct 13, 2005 - 3:16 AM
FallenHero beams... I wonder how the pistons/rods are... tha... Oct 13, 2005 - 4:15 AM
Hanyo higher compression ratio?
the beams already has 1... Oct 13, 2005 - 4:50 AM
FallenHero I have heard of 13:1 on 93 octane. And I do say ... Oct 13, 2005 - 1:59 PM
bonzaisushi Aluminum is for pop cans....
4age, Ra24
Im no... Oct 13, 2005 - 3:21 PM
Outsider I'd have to say for N/A it's BEAMS.
but ... Oct 13, 2005 - 6:53 PM
snowbunny 2JZ-GTE
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+1 Oct 15, 2005 - 11:09 PM
vangSTa_celica So the 2JZ-GTE is a N/A engine? HmmMMmm... Oct 16, 2005 - 1:02 AM
Hanyo yes its a n/a engine. Its n/a before 3k rpm before... Oct 16, 2005 - 2:46 AM
creis ^ actualy a true NA (2JZ-GE) motor would be better... Oct 16, 2005 - 6:26 AM
maikl my engine? ti thing the main thing for you is ... Oct 16, 2005 - 11:55 AM
bonzaisushi QUOTE(creis @ Oct 16, 2005 - 4:26 AM)^ actual... Oct 17, 2005 - 1:41 PM![]() ![]() |
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