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post Oct 17, 2005 - 12:48 PM
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Is there any positive experience with these types of mufflers? I know most go with the straight through design, but I know they would be way too loud and not sound the way I would like. I also was considering this because I don't want to lose any low end power by getting a straight through design. Low end is much more important then high end to me. I was thinking about looking into a Dynomax Super Turbo or possibly a Flowmaster. Any input is appreciated.

http://www.dynomax.com/superturbo.stm
 
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post Oct 17, 2005 - 8:25 PM
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If cars don't need backpressure, then how come some run like crap, or don't even run without back pressure?


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post Oct 19, 2005 - 5:24 PM
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QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Oct 17, 2005 - 6:25 PM)
If cars don't need backpressure, then how come some run like crap, or don't even run without back pressure?
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Oct 17, 2005 - 6:30 PM)
na motors need a certain amount.....
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I take it you guys didn't actually read the entire post, then.

Backpressure happens with big pipes or small. How it happens is just different.

I'll repeat myself: Big pipes have lower initial backpressure, but quickly create turbulence (a form of backpressure) because they let the gas expand, cool and slow down.

Big pipes have backpressure.
It's the equivalent, roughly, of a river getting blocked up by ice. The engine is then spending too much energy trying to push exhaust gases out of the pipe because the expanded, cooler gas is acting like an ice dam.

Small pipes have backpressure.
Small pipes can't accommodate all the exhaust gas coming out, and it bottlenecks.

Backpressure is bad, period. Flow velocity is good, and is what allows engines to run efficiently. Big pipes mess up flow velocity by allowing the exhaust gas to slow down. Small pipes mess up flow velocity by not allowing the exhaust gas to enough space to move.

Turbos need larger pipes because for the same engine size, they pump out more exhaust gases. Which only makes sense, they're burning more fuel and air. The presence of the turbo in the exhaust stream also changes the equation, as that lower initial backpressure of large pipes is utilized in concert with the initial high flow velocity from the engine to improve turbo response -- there's a pressure differential emphasized by larger pipes.

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- dawnoforigin   Chambered mufflers?   Oct 17, 2005 - 12:48 PM
- - soulshadow   The design looks the same as a flowmaster. Im pret...   Oct 17, 2005 - 4:51 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   If your leaving your cat and resinater, a strate t...   Oct 17, 2005 - 4:59 PM
- - Boss-Celica   Even though this is a little off topic I was wonde...   Oct 17, 2005 - 5:37 PM
- - nowitzon   LOUD!!!! Leave the resonator on u ...   Oct 17, 2005 - 7:17 PM
- - Galcobar   Cars do not need backpressure -- it's a myth. ...   Oct 17, 2005 - 7:57 PM
- - Valo666   that muffler is soooooooo bloody loud. i had it on...   Oct 17, 2005 - 8:22 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   If cars don't need backpressure, then how come...   Oct 17, 2005 - 8:25 PM
|- - Galcobar   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Oct 17, 2005 - 6:25 ...   Oct 19, 2005 - 5:24 PM
- - playr158   na motors need a certain amount..... boosted doesn...   Oct 17, 2005 - 8:30 PM
- - soulshadow   Just get a 2.25 catback. It increased a lot of HP ...   Oct 17, 2005 - 11:00 PM
- - playr158   QUOTEIt increased a lot of HP or sounds like it PL...   Oct 17, 2005 - 11:47 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Noise could equal hp, if you hear the noise rising...   Oct 18, 2005 - 11:49 AM
|- - soulshadow   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Oct 18, 2005 - 11:49...   Oct 18, 2005 - 4:15 PM
- - playr158   no noise does not equal horsepower..... my bov mak...   Oct 18, 2005 - 12:44 PM
- - 95CelicaST   You can slap on a couple sweet stickers brah and g...   Oct 18, 2005 - 2:50 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(playr158 @ Oct 18, 2005 - 1:44 PM)no no...   Oct 18, 2005 - 2:56 PM
- - 95CelicaST   QUOTEAlways debated, the potential of a "fe...   Oct 18, 2005 - 3:39 PM
- - nowitzon   ok all i know is that the car is pulling harder no...   Oct 18, 2005 - 4:18 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(95CelicaST @ Oct 18, 2005 - 3:50 PM)You...   Oct 18, 2005 - 5:46 PM
- - 95CelicaST   trying...   Oct 19, 2005 - 1:49 AM
- - soulshadow   AHHH all that stuff about backpressure and what no...   Oct 19, 2005 - 10:12 PM
|- - RocketScott   QUOTE(soulshadow @ Oct 19, 2005 - 7...   Nov 26, 2005 - 12:05 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Galcobar, you're telling me that and engine th...   Oct 19, 2005 - 11:11 PM
- - 95CelicaST   there wouldn't be backpressure w/o a manifold ...   Oct 20, 2005 - 11:22 AM
- - Galcobar   You'll note I never made any comments about ba...   Oct 20, 2005 - 3:28 PM
- - Predator   2-stroke engines on the other hand need backpressu...   Nov 25, 2005 - 4:57 PM
- - K-ESD   QUOTE(RocketScott @ Nov 26, 2005 - 2...   Jun 1, 2006 - 11:01 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (richee3 @ Oct 16, 2012 - 8:56...   Feb 6, 2013 - 3:10 PM
- - delusionz   i wish someone would eliminate the term back pres...   Feb 6, 2013 - 5:02 PM
- - delusionz   Also, to whoever says they lost power by freeing u...   Feb 6, 2013 - 5:07 PM
- - delusionz   Bonzai Its weird that anyone should have drone abo...   Feb 6, 2013 - 5:24 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   wait haha i totally type that wrong read it again ...   Feb 7, 2013 - 2:37 AM
|- - jordisonjr   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Feb 7, 2013 - 3...   Feb 7, 2013 - 1:55 PM
- - mkernz22   I know that oscillating sound all too well...   Feb 7, 2013 - 2:02 PM
- - delusionz   To answer your questions, yes they will sound comp...   Feb 7, 2013 - 4:57 PM
- - mkernz22   As far as back pressure goes, I know our engines d...   Feb 7, 2013 - 5:17 PM
|- - Galcobar   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Feb 7, 2013 - 3:17...   Feb 12, 2013 - 1:10 AM
- - TRDweaponX   What size is the exhaust pipe on a USDM 6th gen Ce...   Feb 11, 2013 - 10:06 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (TRDweaponX @ Feb 11, 2013 - 11...   Feb 12, 2013 - 2:28 AM


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