Oct 25, 2005 - 1:51 AM
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this whole theory is going off something i remember someone saying before. not sure of the exact numbers, but it was something like "every 125lbs you take out adds 4hp" or something like that. anyway, the point is there is a direct correlation between weight and HP.
now onto my main point. people talk stuff like "car A will beat car B becuase they both have the same HP, but car A is lighter" so if car B was reduced to the weight of car A, it would be faster? like if car A is 1900lbs and 150hp, and car B is 2700lbs and 150hp, wouldnt they both be the same speed? its like that old trick question "which would fall faster, a pound of bricks or a pound of feathers" where they'd both fall the same speed. so wouldnt a 1900lb car with 150hp go as fast as a 2700lb car with 150hp? does anybody get what im trying to say? -------------------- ![]() |
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Oct 26, 2005 - 11:26 AM
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Not to complicate things but drag and traction must be considered also, think of it like this losing wieght is great ask Anna Nichole, but losing it in the wrong places will hurt performance as quick as help, in the Celica's case it is more of a low end torque based car (kind of like a domestic) well lets say you take wieght of of the front, now you'll have to add more wieght because you need to use wider front tires to keep the wheels from spinning, the trade of is good but it's not good enough for street use.
Also with drag using the Elise is a good example but it's apples and oranges compared to a Celica, the Celica has very aerodynamics compared to other cars in it's class but if you made the same power as an Elise and wieghed the same the Elise would still beat the Celica simply due to aerodynamics and really good wieght distribution seeing as how the motor is over the already wider wheels, then consider the suspension is set up better for a launch but that's really complicating things. |
Oct 26, 2005 - 6:54 PM
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QUOTE(darksecret @ Oct 26, 2005 - 11:26 AM) Not to complicate things but drag and traction must be considered also Word. Stick 400bhp in an Elise, and it won't accelerate an awful lot faster as it won't get any more traction. It's where something like a Veyron murders a Mclaren F1. It's getting on for 40% heavier, but has superior traction due to more mass and 4wd, and bucketloads of torque. -------------------- JDM ST205
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celicarocker HP and Weight Oct 25, 2005 - 1:51 AM
lagos think of it this way . most super bikes would smok... Oct 25, 2005 - 2:45 AM
celicer there is a huge difference from somethign falling ... Oct 25, 2005 - 3:05 AM
CoSo QUOTE(celicer @ Oct 25, 2005 - 4:05 PM)there ... Oct 25, 2005 - 3:30 AM
CoSo QUOTE(celicarocker @ Oct 25, 2005 - 2:51 PM)t... Oct 25, 2005 - 3:25 AM
behindthesmile QUOTE(celicarocker @ Oct 25, 2005 - 1:51 AM)t... Oct 25, 2005 - 5:31 AM
soulshadow Wats up with all this formula stuff??
Simply put,... Oct 25, 2005 - 8:11 AM
CelicaZR I'm not having a go at anyone here ok.
Is it j... Oct 25, 2005 - 8:38 AM
celicaST first off, you need to understand that the physics... Oct 25, 2005 - 9:15 AM
BBoYRuGGeD its like im back in physics class....
i read so... Oct 25, 2005 - 9:37 AM
forkee heres a good example.
the engine in the lotus eli... Oct 25, 2005 - 11:13 AM
celicaST QUOTE(forkee @ Oct 25, 2005 - 10:13 AM)heres ... Oct 25, 2005 - 12:17 PM
nik QUOTE(celicaST @ Oct 25, 2005 - 10:17 AM)QUOT... Oct 25, 2005 - 4:27 PM
celicaST QUOTE(nik @ Oct 25, 2005 - 3:27 PM)QUOTE(celi... Oct 25, 2005 - 6:26 PM
RbrtNdrws Physics makes the world go 'round. Oct 26, 2005 - 5:50 PM
Snarfer Easy way to put it F(forward wheels) = mass*accele... Oct 26, 2005 - 6:28 PM
creis The real trick quetions is why does a wheel waigh ... Oct 26, 2005 - 9:28 PM
celicaST QUOTE(creis @ Oct 26, 2005 - 8:28 PM)The real... Oct 26, 2005 - 10:19 PM
darksecret Your talking about rotating mass and the g-force m... Oct 27, 2005 - 12:16 AM![]() ![]() |
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