Toyota-Caldina st215 3s-gte swap, has any body tried it.. Options

[RUNNIN-LOW]

well i just recently got my 94 celica gt from a guy who put like 2hundred grand miles...on it but yeah i was looking around and it seems like everybody is doing a gt4 swap with the 3sgte and i was woundering if anybody have ever thought or done a caldina 3sgte swap it make like 260hp..

[lagos]

I don't think that this is true at all. The highest I've seen any second gen on the site go is about 225 at the wheels, where I've seen 3rd gens get over 300. I don't think that this is because the 2nd gen doesn't have the capability, but because the 3rd gen is simply a newer, more reliable motor that people are more willing to push because of its youth.

it has nothing to do with youth,lol. the 2nd and 3rd gen motors are basically the same thing, 4cly 2.0l dohc. the only thing thats really different is that the 3rd gen has a better turbo, upgraded intercooler, and 550cc injectors. all of those things can be swaped over to the 2nd gen 3s. the only reason you dont see any swaper on here dyno at over 225hp is not because our motors are old and we are afraid to push them. its because thats all the stock ct26 turbo is really good for.

I don't know why exactly it would be harder to wire; get a diagram and you should be able to figure it out if you have a good amount of general knowledge about cars.

see thats the problem. this motor was never sold in the us, so its not like you can just go down to you local dealer and order a wiring diagram book. even if u manage to find one, it will probably be in another language and next to impossible to understand. so the only real way to get it to run is to get a standalone ecu, and you are looking at about 2grand for that.


the other thing to remember too, is that 260hp sepc people are talking about is at the crank, and the 225 that youve seen a 2nd gen motor dyno at is at the wheels! so figure your probably loosing 25hp from the drivetran. that 225hp at the wheels is probably about 250hp at the crank, all from a 15yr old crappy 2nd gen motor

This post has been edited by lagos: Nov 9, 2005 - 2:15 PM