Never get into the Modding world, The celi is just not right. Options

[soulshadow]

After thinking for a while now I am dissatisfied with the celi with the 4age engine. There are just so many cars out there that can perform so much better and go so much faster. Maybe its just me and maybe its just my crappy tuning that sucked cause my car won't go any faster, but after a while. I'm begining to think that I should have never got into the Modding scene in the first place. There is no prize and there is no trophy for beating your rivals on the streets and there is no Reputation to keep when your ride gets totaled.

So basically, for those of you starting out your Modding career in the car world, keep this in mind. A stock car came in like crap to begin with, when you start out adjusting every feature in the stock car to make it look different and perform different from the rest. Your just pooring more and more cash into a car that would probbaly turn out to be different at the end and end up as something that could never quench your thirst. If you want a fast car, get one to begin with and then start modding from there. In the end, the time you waste and the efforts and money you put in will pay off. If you start with a slow car, nothing will change unless you have deep pockets. The Celica 6Gen is just not worth it to Modd nor any other cars that came in N/A with a Slow A** engine.

[celicarus]

the celica is one of the finest sport coupe - when i had bought this car - i looked at others including hondas, nissan, mazda, porsche (i wish) - for a reasonably priced car the 5sfe engine was the best in its class - comparing the interior/ exteriro of the celica to other models that had fallen witihn the 94-99 years - the shape and size of the celica was the best sporty looking coupe (my opinion)

the looks of the celica was what made me decide to buy it - i really did not know much about the history of the celica when i bought it - but 3 years down the road - after doing research about performance for it - first i got disappointed finding very little upgrade options, which made me think about trading it in for something else, but after I found out about the 3sgte - i stuck with the celica -

if you want a well tuned car - you should spend your time and money wisely - by saving up for the best engine within the celica class - many of us here have repeatedly mentioned - don't waste your time doing it cheap, because it'll end up costing more in the long run - do it right the first time - meaning get an engine that was built for high end performance

of course if you had the money - you can buy a new fast car to start off with and then modd it later down the road - new car - means montly loan repayments on that car - equals less money to spend modding the car (i doubt any one here would go out to buy a car and pay it off right there and then, whats the point in that, unless ur filthy rich -)

on the other hand - getting a used car - allows you to pay it off quickly - or paying in full - when the car is paid for you can actually call it yours - you can modd it how ever you want - without making payments on it - more money to modd -

I'm not sure which gen 4age you have - but in my opinion thats a slow engine to start off with - you can spend so much money on that engine and gain probably max of 240 hp (info from http://www.ae92gts.com/3a1.html and http://www.users.bigpond.com/vidore/toyota_4age_engine.htm)
- you would spend too much money modding that engine to gain 240hp, but if you started out with a stock 2nd gen or 3rd gen 3sgte -you're already starting out with more than 200 hp. - then with upgrades here and there - you can easily obtain 275 hp without spending too much money - but this engine can go more than 500 hp that i have read -

your complaint about the celica cannot be justified in my opinion - sorry for the long post to this