Dec 21, 2005 - 7:30 PM
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I'm almost done gathering everything for the turbo setup. I have a question tho. I'm going with either the SAFC-2 or the E-manage. I had no idea those things where like 200+. but yeah. I'm probably going with the Apexi cuz it has a display and the e-manage just seems to come with a CD and I'd rather tune real time than have to go to my pc. I'm guessing that's how e-manage works. but yeah. once my injectors and fuel pump and all that crap are in my car, how do i know to tune the SAFC so my car runs right? is that in the instructions or is it something i have to know?
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Dec 22, 2005 - 12:42 PM
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honestly "street tunning" isn't really doing you much
you NEED to go to a dyno so that you have PROFESSIONALS who actually KNOW what they are looking at instead of having random people on the internet say look for the # 15 and try and get that twist a knobby thing and you'll be good.... at a dyno you can get the proper tuning done with the aid of machines and technology that you don't have on the street and with the aid of technicians who know what they are doing.... "street tunning" you might as well add your name to the list of blown turbos of the 7afte crowd... |
Dec 22, 2005 - 2:18 PM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Dec 22, 2005 - 5:42 PM) [snapback]370063[/snapback] honestly "street tunning" isn't really doing you much you NEED to go to a dyno so that you have PROFESSIONALS who actually KNOW what they are looking at instead of having random people on the internet say look for the # 15 and try and get that twist a knobby thing and you'll be good.... at a dyno you can get the proper tuning done with the aid of machines and technology that you don't have on the street and with the aid of technicians who know what they are doing.... "street tunning" you might as well add your name to the list of blown turbos of the 7afte crowd... hahahahaha, obvisouly you know nothing about tuning. when i tuned my car i tuned a/f and ign on the steet myself with a wideband (zeitronix), apex-i pfc, a datalogit and my laptop. i would just go and wind out 3rd gear on the highway and log into what a/fs i was getting then compensate the load into those cells, either by leaning out every 200rpm bank or by adding more fuel. and by putting in correction factors i maintained a 13.2a/f accross the board at WOT. then for IGN i would advance my ign until i was seeing knock numbers. 60 is dangerous to your motor and is clearly audiable, 15 is not audible at all and no risk to your motor. i then went to the dyno and tuned my high and low cam for the RPMs and set vvt and vvtli to the correct values to make horsepower, this was the only reason i needed a dyno. i ended up with 183whp n/a. if tuning your car is considered only to the pro, then consider me and pro. ill upload my tunning maps for all load levels not just WOT like people here with doing with their piggy backs. so go home and tune your "NAWZ". learn to tune and dont knock others until you know what your talking about. This post has been edited by recneps: Dec 22, 2005 - 2:21 PM -------------------- Former: 96 GT 5 speed (i/p/e) Fate- rear ended by mack truck
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Dec 22, 2005 - 2:37 PM
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QUOTE(recneps @ Dec 22, 2005 - 1:18 PM) [snapback]370088[/snapback] QUOTE(playr158 @ Dec 22, 2005 - 5:42 PM) [snapback]370063[/snapback] honestly "street tunning" isn't really doing you much you NEED to go to a dyno so that you have PROFESSIONALS who actually KNOW what they are looking at instead of having random people on the internet say look for the # 15 and try and get that twist a knobby thing and you'll be good.... at a dyno you can get the proper tuning done with the aid of machines and technology that you don't have on the street and with the aid of technicians who know what they are doing.... "street tunning" you might as well add your name to the list of blown turbos of the 7afte crowd... hahahahaha, obvisouly you know nothing about tuning. when i tuned my car i tuned a/f and ign on the steet myself with a wideband (zeitronix), apex-i pfc, a datalogit and my laptop. i would just go and wind out 3rd gear on the highway and log into what a/fs i was getting then compensate the load into those cells, either by leaning out every 200rpm bank or by adding more fuel. and by putting in correction factors i maintained a 13.2a/f accross the board at WOT. then for IGN i would advance my ign until i was seeing knock numbers. 60 is dangerous to your motor and is clearly audiable, 15 is not audible at all and no risk to your motor. i then went to the dyno and tuned my high and low cam for the RPMs and set vvt and vvtli to the correct values to make horsepower, this was the only reason i needed a dyno. i ended up with 183whp n/a. if tuning your car is considered only to the pro, then consider me and pro. ill upload my tunning maps for all load levels not just WOT like people here with doing with their piggy backs. so go home and tune your "NAWZ". learn to tune and dont knock others until you know what your talking about. an a/f ratio of 15? I am not all that knowledgable about the 7afte but that would blow a 3sgte. The ideal safe a/f ratio for the 3sgte is in the 11's. Most of your tuning can be done on a street if you have a way to monitor a/f ratios and timing. However, I personally do not believe that its something someone should do by himself the first time. Its fairly complicated and the ramifications of a bad tune are very expensive. Most good shops can tune a safc on a dyno in less than an hour. Its really not that expensive to have it done by someone who knows what he is doing. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
JoKeRkId613 Once turbo, injectors, fuel pump's in Dec 21, 2005 - 7:30 PM
lagos you have to get on a dyno and see what your air to... Dec 21, 2005 - 7:54 PM
JoKeRkId613 so it wont be drivable until i tune it properly?..... Dec 21, 2005 - 8:07 PM
urbandork u can drive it but it will be really lean at point... Dec 21, 2005 - 9:36 PM
JoKeRkId613 ok, so as long as i have a wideband o2 sensor, i w... Dec 21, 2005 - 9:40 PM
ummmx2 not really. if your worried about costs, you can u... Dec 21, 2005 - 10:02 PM
presure2 QUOTE(ummmx2 @ Dec 21, 2005 - 10:02 ... Dec 22, 2005 - 10:09 AM
urbandork QUOTE(presure2 @ Dec 22, 2005 - 3:09... Dec 22, 2005 - 10:14 PM
JoKeRkId613 im not worried about costs... i mean, i am, im not... Dec 21, 2005 - 10:09 PM
lagos QUOTE(JoKeRkId613 @ Dec 21, 2005 - 9... Dec 21, 2005 - 10:13 PM
JoKeRkId613 thats my problem. where do i learn about that. im ... Dec 21, 2005 - 10:19 PM
ummmx2 search on yahoo for wideband tuning. read up on eg... Dec 21, 2005 - 11:31 PM
recneps best thing i can suggest is to get an e-manage and... Dec 22, 2005 - 10:35 AM
JoKeRkId613 QUOTE(presure2 @ Dec 22, 2005 - 8:09... Dec 22, 2005 - 12:07 PM
dstrbcelica ya know..i knew that once you made up your mind on... Dec 22, 2005 - 2:34 PM
JoKeRkId613 QUOTE(dstrbcelica @ Dec 22, 2005 - 12... Dec 22, 2005 - 2:51 PM
playr158 QUOTE(recneps @ Dec 22, 2005 - 2:18 ... Dec 22, 2005 - 3:10 PM
scothaniel QUOTEan a/f ratio of 15? I am not all that knowled... Dec 22, 2005 - 3:26 PM
jgreening QUOTE(scothaniel @ Dec 22, 2005 - 2... Dec 22, 2005 - 9:33 PM
nik your new to the whole 7afte /turbo world go to the... Dec 22, 2005 - 4:30 PM
recneps i got a little carried away, but the point is that... Dec 22, 2005 - 4:35 PM
scothaniel QUOTE I stick by my statement that you should tune... Dec 22, 2005 - 11:29 PM
lagos QUOTEIdle and cruising are closed loop (no boost).... Dec 23, 2005 - 1:15 AM
urbandork QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 23, 2005 - 6:15 AM... Dec 23, 2005 - 2:50 AM
ummmx2 dont know how to quote, but about my first post, i... Dec 23, 2005 - 1:50 AM![]() ![]() |
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