Dec 21, 2005 - 7:30 PM
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I'm almost done gathering everything for the turbo setup. I have a question tho. I'm going with either the SAFC-2 or the E-manage. I had no idea those things where like 200+. but yeah. I'm probably going with the Apexi cuz it has a display and the e-manage just seems to come with a CD and I'd rather tune real time than have to go to my pc. I'm guessing that's how e-manage works. but yeah. once my injectors and fuel pump and all that crap are in my car, how do i know to tune the SAFC so my car runs right? is that in the instructions or is it something i have to know?
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Dec 22, 2005 - 3:26 PM
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QUOTE an a/f ratio of 15? I am not all that knowledgable about the 7afte but that would blow a 3sgte. The ideal safe a/f ratio for the 3sgte is in the 11's. a/f ratio of 15 is just above stoich (14.7), not harmfull at all. My stock 3SGTE ran between 11.8 at WOT and 19 at idle, and the 3S's run very rich. Best fuel economy is usually between 16 and 18 for cruising . 12's are best for making power under full boost. Widebands are the best for tuning, but you can use a standard 2 wire (0 to 1 volt) a/f meter with the stock sensor to get you going. -------------------- Scott
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Dec 22, 2005 - 9:33 PM
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QUOTE(scothaniel @ Dec 22, 2005 - 2:26 PM) [snapback]370109[/snapback] QUOTE an a/f ratio of 15? I am not all that knowledgable about the 7afte but that would blow a 3sgte. The ideal safe a/f ratio for the 3sgte is in the 11's. a/f ratio of 15 is just above stoich (14.7), not harmfull at all. My stock 3SGTE ran between 11.8 at WOT and 19 at idle, and the 3S's run very rich. Best fuel economy is usually between 16 and 18 for cruising . 12's are best for making power under full boost. Widebands are the best for tuning, but you can use a standard 2 wire (0 to 1 volt) a/f meter with the stock sensor to get you going. Idle and cruising are closed loop (no boost). If you pop a motor, its most likely going to be under a boost event. I stick by my statement that you should tune for mid to high 11's under boost. That will give you some comfort level. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
JoKeRkId613 Once turbo, injectors, fuel pump's in Dec 21, 2005 - 7:30 PM
lagos you have to get on a dyno and see what your air to... Dec 21, 2005 - 7:54 PM
JoKeRkId613 so it wont be drivable until i tune it properly?..... Dec 21, 2005 - 8:07 PM
urbandork u can drive it but it will be really lean at point... Dec 21, 2005 - 9:36 PM
JoKeRkId613 ok, so as long as i have a wideband o2 sensor, i w... Dec 21, 2005 - 9:40 PM
ummmx2 not really. if your worried about costs, you can u... Dec 21, 2005 - 10:02 PM
presure2 QUOTE(ummmx2 @ Dec 21, 2005 - 10:02 ... Dec 22, 2005 - 10:09 AM
urbandork QUOTE(presure2 @ Dec 22, 2005 - 3:09... Dec 22, 2005 - 10:14 PM
JoKeRkId613 im not worried about costs... i mean, i am, im not... Dec 21, 2005 - 10:09 PM
lagos QUOTE(JoKeRkId613 @ Dec 21, 2005 - 9... Dec 21, 2005 - 10:13 PM
JoKeRkId613 thats my problem. where do i learn about that. im ... Dec 21, 2005 - 10:19 PM
ummmx2 search on yahoo for wideband tuning. read up on eg... Dec 21, 2005 - 11:31 PM
recneps best thing i can suggest is to get an e-manage and... Dec 22, 2005 - 10:35 AM
JoKeRkId613 QUOTE(presure2 @ Dec 22, 2005 - 8:09... Dec 22, 2005 - 12:07 PM
playr158 honestly "street tunning" isn't real... Dec 22, 2005 - 12:42 PM
recneps QUOTE(playr158 @ Dec 22, 2005 - 5:42... Dec 22, 2005 - 2:18 PM
jgreening QUOTE(recneps @ Dec 22, 2005 - 1:18 ... Dec 22, 2005 - 2:37 PM
dstrbcelica ya know..i knew that once you made up your mind on... Dec 22, 2005 - 2:34 PM
JoKeRkId613 QUOTE(dstrbcelica @ Dec 22, 2005 - 12... Dec 22, 2005 - 2:51 PM
playr158 QUOTE(recneps @ Dec 22, 2005 - 2:18 ... Dec 22, 2005 - 3:10 PM
nik your new to the whole 7afte /turbo world go to the... Dec 22, 2005 - 4:30 PM
recneps i got a little carried away, but the point is that... Dec 22, 2005 - 4:35 PM
scothaniel QUOTE I stick by my statement that you should tune... Dec 22, 2005 - 11:29 PM
lagos QUOTEIdle and cruising are closed loop (no boost).... Dec 23, 2005 - 1:15 AM
urbandork QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 23, 2005 - 6:15 AM... Dec 23, 2005 - 2:50 AM
ummmx2 dont know how to quote, but about my first post, i... Dec 23, 2005 - 1:50 AM![]() ![]() |
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