Sep 20, 2005 - 8:40 AM
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ok guys, went back to the dyno with the 460cc injectors, and did some runs to see what was up....first couple runs were about the same as before, about 195 or so whp and a little over 210ftlbs...but now it was NICE AND RICH, which i was VERY happy about.
so, i removed a little fuel up top (between 4600-6k) and upped the boost a little bit, to 12lbs. she responded by giving me these runs. after looking at the runs some, you can really see how the power drops off right @ 4450rpm. i think this MAY be one of two things. the SAFCII screwing with my timing, and the ECU making it pull timing to fight back, or just plain ole detonation. now, i havent noticed anything strange as far as readings on the SAFCII, and i havent actually "heard" anything strange, yet. then again, they do say by the time you hear it, its usually to late..lol so, im planning on going back, and trying a few things to see what i can do about the power dropoff. even with it, the car pulls HARD, and by the looks of the egts things are actually safer with the bigger injectors. i really think that if i can figure out the issue i have there above 4400rpm, i should be making about 225whp to go with the 240+ftlbs... any thoughts??? lets hear em! This post has been edited by presure2: Sep 20, 2005 - 8:44 AM -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Dec 25, 2005 - 12:45 AM
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Wow Manny. That graph is so close to my 3sgte graph (before the turbo upgrade) at 14psi its scary. Perhaps you don't even need the 3s! Here is my plot:
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Dec 25, 2005 - 9:40 AM
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QUOTE Wow Manny. That graph is so close to my 3sgte graph (before the turbo upgrade) at 14psi its scary. Perhaps you don't even need the 3s! haha jay...naa..the 5SFTE is fun, dont get me wrong, but with the setup that im running, im really pushing it..lol boost control has been a problem since day one with the '27 and 3" turbo back. it pretty much just rises right till redline, and on a normal day will peak at around 12 or so lbs. i think the fact that i have the super fresh '98 motor to start with the metal headgasket ect has really helped me a ton, i totally believe that if it wasnt in as good of condition to start with, it'd be dead. lol the 5sfTe can be a great learning tool, and it has been...but its not what i wanna do with it. the 3sgte will allow me to reach my goal for the car MUCH more reliably, without question. with the '27, and a few simple bolt ons, i can easily surpass 250whp, which IMO is more than enough for my needs. besides, with the wifes heavy right foot, and her 40mi commute round trip everyday we need to keep the car helthy and reliable, somthing much easier with the 3sgte VS 5sfte.. knock on wood, i havent had any MAJOR problems with the 5s yet, but thats just it, its all about that magic little word : YET.. haha its not a matter of IF, its a matter of WHEN. IMO thats the rule for 5sfTe projects, and when bryan "noshoes" moore tells you that very same thing, you better listen..hehe and i have. that said.. IM COMING TO THE DARK SIDE JAY!! hehehehe ohhh..and lets not miss the fact that in your graph, your over 200ftlbs till like 5600, and 200whp well past 6k hehe This post has been edited by presure2: Dec 25, 2005 - 9:46 AM -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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presure2 my 5sfte 200+whp dyno runs Sep 20, 2005 - 8:40 AM
nik looking good do you have any way to detect detenat... Sep 20, 2005 - 9:25 AM
Jdog1385 i read a similar problem in TPR magazine with the ... Sep 20, 2005 - 9:25 AM
jgreening Good job Manny. That dyno graph looks like classi... Sep 20, 2005 - 9:28 AM
nik QUOTE(jgreening @ Sep 20, 2005 - 7:28 AM)Good... Sep 20, 2005 - 9:31 AM
lagos yeah, it could be just do to the fact that its a h... Sep 20, 2005 - 9:54 AM
Jdog1385 im pretty sure sunoco race fuel is up to 7 dollars... Sep 20, 2005 - 10:09 AM
presure2 yea, im thinking about throwing in some 109octane ... Sep 20, 2005 - 12:42 PM
lagos you might want to post this on celiatech so that n... Sep 20, 2005 - 12:46 PM
presure2 QUOTE(lagos @ Sep 20, 2005 - 1:46 PM)you migh... Sep 20, 2005 - 12:56 PM
lagos did you dyno the 10psi of boost you were at the 1s... Sep 20, 2005 - 3:06 PM
presure2 QUOTE(lagos @ Sep 20, 2005 - 4:06 PM)did you ... Sep 20, 2005 - 3:29 PM
lagos was it pulling timing like it did in the 12psi run... Sep 20, 2005 - 3:34 PM
presure2 the first run i did is missing a spot from the gra... Sep 20, 2005 - 3:46 PM
ice23q What injectors are you using........?? Sep 20, 2005 - 3:55 PM
lagos check his profile... hes got it all in there
460c... Sep 20, 2005 - 3:57 PM
presure2 QUOTE(lagos @ Sep 20, 2005 - 4:57 PM)check hi... Sep 20, 2005 - 4:24 PM
StreetRacing10PSI my 7afte pulled a 93HP on the dyno still dnt no w... Sep 20, 2005 - 4:48 PM
97sccelica QUOTE(StreetRacing10PSI @ Sep 20, 2005 - 1:48... Sep 20, 2005 - 8:58 PM
Digndoug Did you take it to the track yet? what kinda numbe... Sep 20, 2005 - 9:14 PM
Jdog1385 wheres kwanza for this one Sep 20, 2005 - 10:40 PM
presure2 QUOTEit looks like you increased the cylinder pres... Sep 21, 2005 - 4:11 PM
defgeph Manny I give you all praise for the work you have ... Sep 21, 2005 - 4:33 PM
Silver94CelicaOwner Agreed. I was impressed the first time I rode in ... Sep 21, 2005 - 10:31 PM
eazy2001x which gen head are you using and what cams ? Dec 20, 2005 - 11:27 PM
presure2 easy, the motor is totally stock, no aftermarket p... Dec 21, 2005 - 6:23 AM
recneps si there a chance your blowing out your sparks at ... Dec 21, 2005 - 7:47 AM
shin there's no MAF sensor for the 5sfte, manny hav... Dec 21, 2005 - 1:40 PM
recneps QUOTE(shin @ Dec 21, 2005 - 6:40 PM)... Dec 21, 2005 - 1:53 PM
lagos recneps... you should read the how to he wrote up ... Dec 21, 2005 - 2:02 PM
recneps QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 21, 2005 - 7:02 PM... Dec 21, 2005 - 2:23 PM
lagos you had the right idea....just thinking of the wro... Dec 21, 2005 - 3:10 PM
presure2 just as an update, the dropoff i saw seeing was mo... Dec 22, 2005 - 10:38 AM
macavely nice numbers manny ... i'm happy to see you fi... Dec 23, 2005 - 3:53 AM
OOBE Great numbers. That's weird, though, that at o... Dec 24, 2005 - 10:57 PM
macavely dann after seeing that graph from J ... . manny do... Dec 25, 2005 - 1:30 AM
jgreening all good points. Dec 25, 2005 - 10:01 AM
lagos jay, do u have a copy of your chart with the a/f ... Dec 26, 2005 - 4:18 PM
jgreening QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 26, 2005 - 3:18 PM... Dec 26, 2005 - 4:37 PM![]() ![]() |
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