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> REALLY serious about doing a 5sgte, with a GE head. no gte.
post Sep 15, 2004 - 9:38 PM
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i have found a head thanks to a memeber, im trying to convince my dad into helping with the project. alright so im brainstorming for the 5sgte. since i can bolt the turbo-manifold directly on theres no problem there. but what about the intake manifold. it has a different bolt pattern if what i heard it right. so id need a GE intake manifold. or aftermarket intake for a 3sge. now the 5sfe uses a maf sensor would the 3sge manifold use the same type? anyone have more information on this. also on the GE head were would i tap it for oil? or does it use the same location and sensor as the 5sfe?

Also. il be running out of fuel with the amount of boost i want to run. the 7mgte injectors 440cc will fit but the ohms are wrong, for a coil pack is it as simply as sondering a resistor on one of the injector harness leads? if so thats the next step.

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post Dec 25, 2005 - 10:48 AM
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a 5sgte is a 5sgte is a 5sgte, no matter what block, head, etc you use.

all it means is that it's a turbo charged 2.2L S block with a GE head.

GE heads and GTE heads are the same PER GENERATION. so using a GE head is really no different than using a GTE head because they are the same.

99 percent of the GE heads/manifolds you are going to encounter in the US are going to be built for TVIS (only 3rd gens came without them), so you are going to need a tvis eliminator plate if you are going for outright HP tuning. if not, i would suggest leaving the TVIS on because it helps with turbo spool and low end torque. also, only third gens came with MAP sensors. all other GE modles (and the FE if i'm not mistaken) had MAF sensors.

i honestly have no idea if an FE intake manifold will mount up to a GE head. other than that any manifold built for a GE head will work on a GE head (GTE inclusive), just be sure that if it's built for a 1st/2nd gen head that you get a TVIS eliminator or use TVIS (depending on what you want).

honestly, if you are building it from scratch (which it sounds like you are) a stand-alone EMS would probably be just about as hard as getting all the crap together OEM. it might cost a bit more, but the hassle is going to be just the same. and as a bonus you can use a MAP with it rather than a MAF, which means a BOV without screwing your A/F ratio.

if you are planning on doing ANY kind of an Xsgte build, browse around the mr2 and all-trac forums. you'll learn alot. call up ATS racing and KO racing. they can point you in the right direction.


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- x_itchy_b_x   REALLY serious about doing a 5sgte   Sep 15, 2004 - 9:38 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   why not run a 3sgte intake manifold?? as for gett...   Sep 16, 2004 - 12:07 AM
- - Doge   isnt the 3sge a 2.0 liter head? what block are yo...   Sep 16, 2004 - 5:37 PM
- - Coomer   Yeah, I'm curious as to which head you plan on...   Sep 16, 2004 - 5:49 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Doge @ Sep 16, 2004 - 10:37 PM) isnt the 3s...   Sep 16, 2004 - 6:45 PM
- - Doge   doesn't the combustion chamber have to be matc...   Sep 16, 2004 - 7:01 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Doge @ Sep 17, 2004 - 12:01 AM) doesn...   Sep 16, 2004 - 7:22 PM
- - Doge   Oh sweet! You learn something new every day...   Sep 16, 2004 - 7:24 PM
- - celicarocker   im completely lost... i know nothing about engines...   Sep 16, 2004 - 7:38 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   i pan on buying a new block anyways. from here htt...   Sep 16, 2004 - 10:43 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE The only problem I see, the 5SFE bottom end ...   Sep 16, 2004 - 11:30 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   haha its not reallt the need for being different i...   Sep 17, 2004 - 10:16 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 17, 2004 - 4:30 AM) No...   Sep 17, 2004 - 12:54 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE The USDM 1st gen 3SGTE (ST165) had the bigpo...   Sep 17, 2004 - 11:00 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 4:00 AM) do...   Sep 17, 2004 - 11:31 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Doge @ Sep 17, 2004 - 12:24 AM) Oh sweet...   Sep 17, 2004 - 11:43 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE I'm pretty sure 91-93 used a non-TVIS he...   Sep 18, 2004 - 2:12 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 7:12 AM) let me ...   Sep 18, 2004 - 2:46 AM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE I'm also trying to clearify to you that ...   Sep 18, 2004 - 12:42 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 1:42 PM) QUOTE I...   Sep 18, 2004 - 12:50 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE haha i love these topics. alright thats what...   Sep 18, 2004 - 1:21 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 2:21 PM) QUOTE h...   Sep 18, 2004 - 1:42 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE or go stand alone right? thats probly better...   Sep 18, 2004 - 10:58 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 18, 2004 - 11:58 PM) QUOTE ...   Sep 20, 2004 - 9:03 PM
- - playr158   neverstop if he's doin a total performance eng...   Sep 20, 2004 - 9:13 PM
- - Kwanza26   Standalone would be by far, the best bet...   Sep 21, 2004 - 12:07 AM
- - NEVERSTOP   Stand alones are good ideas.. if you have the mone...   Sep 22, 2004 - 12:29 PM
|- - Punch   QUOTE(NEVERSTOP @ Sep 22, 2004 - 5:2...   Dec 25, 2005 - 9:23 AM
- - killer_siller   a 5sgte is a 5sgte is a 5sgte, no matter what bloc...   Dec 25, 2005 - 10:48 AM


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