Jan 16, 2006 - 1:08 AM
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hey guys...im planning on getting a st185 clip and i was just wondering...if i clock the turbo what dif. does it make?? does it improve on performance?? i no it uses less IC piping rite??
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Jan 16, 2006 - 9:33 AM
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The exhaust gasses may be, but the intake air is not. Every little bit helps.
Besides, I heard once that each 90* bend is equal to like 3 feet of piping... if that's true, eliminating a 180* and a 45* bend from the route the intercooler has to take makes a big difference. -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
Jan 16, 2006 - 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 16, 2006 - 8:33 AM) [snapback]379262[/snapback] The exhaust gasses may be, but the intake air is not. Every little bit helps. The intake air is not in the loop that is eliminated by clocking the turbo either. I do not argue that running a more direct route is generally better than a route that has 180 degrees of more bends. My only point is that the improvement is marginal at best. This post has been edited by jgreening: Jan 16, 2006 - 11:43 AM -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
Jan 18, 2006 - 5:48 PM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Jan 16, 2006 - 4:14 PM) [snapback]379284[/snapback] QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 16, 2006 - 8:33 AM) [snapback]379262[/snapback] The exhaust gasses may be, but the intake air is not. Every little bit helps. The intake air is not in the loop that is eliminated by clocking the turbo either. I do not argue that running a more direct route is generally better than a route that has 180 degrees of more bends. My only point is that the improvement is marginal at best. Yeah it is. What in the world are you talking about? That loop is the air that just came out of your turbo and is headed to the intercooler and then through your engine. There isn't a massive improvement though, that's true. It just looks a lot cleaner and functions a little better. -Doc -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
Jan 18, 2006 - 7:45 PM
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QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 18, 2006 - 4:48 PM) [snapback]380558[/snapback] QUOTE(jgreening @ Jan 16, 2006 - 4:14 PM) [snapback]379284[/snapback] QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 16, 2006 - 8:33 AM) [snapback]379262[/snapback] The exhaust gasses may be, but the intake air is not. Every little bit helps. The intake air is not in the loop that is eliminated by clocking the turbo either. I do not argue that running a more direct route is generally better than a route that has 180 degrees of more bends. My only point is that the improvement is marginal at best. Yeah it is. What in the world are you talking about? That loop is the air that just came out of your turbo and is headed to the intercooler and then through your engine. There isn't a massive improvement though, that's true. It just looks a lot cleaner and functions a little better. -Doc Doc: I understand that the air coming out of the turbo eventually ends up in the intake. My point was in response to your statement that the "intake air is not hot". Its not hot because it is cooled by the intercooler. The air in the loop coming out of the turbo is the same temperature as the exhaust gasses. If the turbo is clocked and the loop is not there, the temperature from the turbo to the hotside (passenger side) of the intercooler is also hot. Eliminating the loop does NOTHING for intake charge temperatures. The reason it functions "a little" better is because the elimination of 180 degrees of turns. I am not trying to argue here. I think we both know how it works but I wanted to explain what I meant. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
Mr_chOps clocking turbo Jan 16, 2006 - 1:08 AM
lagos QUOTE(Mr_chOps @ Jan 16, 2006 - 1:08... Jan 16, 2006 - 1:34 AM
jgreening My car became much more responsive....or could tha... Jan 16, 2006 - 1:41 AM
Dr_Tweak By clocking the turbo you remove a 180* and a 45* ... Jan 16, 2006 - 3:26 AM
jgreening QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 16, 2006 - 2:26... Jan 16, 2006 - 9:23 AM
jgreening QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 16, 2006 - 2:26... Jan 19, 2006 - 2:22 PM
Dr_Tweak QUOTE(jgreening @ Jan 19, 2006 - 7:2... Jan 20, 2006 - 7:39 PM
lagos QUOTE not to mention that you don't have the i... Jan 16, 2006 - 4:00 AM

Dr_Tweak QUOTE(jgreening @ Jan 19, 2006 - 12... Jan 18, 2006 - 9:52 PM

jgreening QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 18, 2006 - 8:52... Jan 19, 2006 - 12:22 AM
Dr_Tweak QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 18, 2006 - 10:4... Jan 19, 2006 - 10:16 AM
Mr_chOps thanks for the responses guys. im probly just goi... Jan 16, 2006 - 11:06 AM
lagos i dont think any one can say what benefit or drawb... Jan 18, 2006 - 10:39 PM
lagos QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 16, 2006 - 4:00 AM... Jan 19, 2006 - 2:14 AM
jgreening QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 19, 2006 - 1:14 AM... Jan 19, 2006 - 2:20 AM
lagos i thought we needed something to break the ice Jan 19, 2006 - 2:25 AM
jgreening fair enough. Jan 19, 2006 - 2:51 AM
presure2 i gotta agree with jay on this one.
with my setup,... Jan 19, 2006 - 8:23 AM
jgreening Well, at least you stuck by your statement - I tho... Jan 20, 2006 - 7:52 PM
Dr_Tweak QUOTE(jgreening @ Jan 21, 2006 - 12... Jan 20, 2006 - 8:19 PM
jgreening QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 20, 2006 - 7:19... Jan 21, 2006 - 4:13 AM
lagos no more debate from me, but i just want to point o... Jan 20, 2006 - 9:46 PM
Dr_Tweak QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 21, 2006 - 2:46 AM... Jan 20, 2006 - 9:51 PM
lilsteeg clocking it does good, cooler air into intercooler... Jan 20, 2006 - 9:59 PM
playr158 cold air + turbo is normally a no no...(Thats why ... Jan 20, 2006 - 10:36 PM
lilsteeg if you want volume over temp, than you need colder... Jan 21, 2006 - 3:52 PM
jgreening QUOTE(lilsteeg @ Jan 21, 2006 - 2:52... Jan 21, 2006 - 4:09 PM
lilsteeg QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 20, 2006 - 10:3... Jan 21, 2006 - 4:16 PM
jgreening QUOTE(lilsteeg @ Jan 21, 2006 - 3:16... Jan 21, 2006 - 4:18 PM
DG_Performance While you guys are at it....why not add an interco... Feb 1, 2006 - 11:37 PM
playr158 nter-cooler my nitrous express Feb 1, 2006 - 11:46 PM
jayi12-15psi sorry to be an idiot here, but what is clocking a ... Feb 2, 2006 - 4:02 PM
gt_driFFter Repositioning the angle of a turbo to decrease the... Feb 2, 2006 - 4:17 PM
jayi12-15psi oh, very interesting, I had never heard of this be... Feb 3, 2006 - 12:28 AM
zipstrips gt drifter, is that image ofthe ct26 being clocked... Feb 3, 2006 - 6:25 PM
BBoYRuGGeD QUOTE(zipstrips @ Feb 3, 2006 - 11:2... Feb 3, 2006 - 9:27 PM
brianforster im gonna bump this thread, as i want to clock the ... Feb 23, 2006 - 11:34 PM
BBoYRuGGeD heres a great topic from alltrac.net about clockin... Feb 24, 2006 - 4:04 PM
brianforster i actually found out this morning that my turbo wa... Feb 24, 2006 - 4:04 PM
BBoYRuGGeD QUOTE(brianforster @ Feb 24, 2006 - 9... Feb 24, 2006 - 4:06 PM![]() ![]() |
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