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post Jan 19, 2006 - 10:43 AM
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NX express, ZEX, NOS has any have some on there car ???? gonna put some on my new motor only a 50 shot...
 
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post Jan 29, 2006 - 10:48 AM
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to quote a very intelligent nitrous user (runs his own shop, builds his own kit)

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To add to what ******* was saying about softening the hit there are also a few other things that can be done to make it come in softer. Running a digital delay on just the nitrous solenoid helps a ton to time the events of nitrous and fuel hitting the plenum at the same time (because they never do) and also can be used as a poor mans traction control device by letting the system spray additional fuel for a few hundreths of a second so the tune goes rich right off the bat. On a well tuned system this works really well, on a "manufacturer reccommended tune" it is pretty much bog city. Biasing the line lenths between the solenoids and nozzles (making the fuel lines roughly 50% shorter) has a very similar effect. The changes are dramatic on a narrowband (yes I know they suck) A/F gauge and should also be quite visible on a wideband with the sample rate cranked.


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The acutal length of the line is somewhat irrilevant, the ratio between the nitrous and fuel lines is what is key. Please note this is not the gossepel of nitrous tuning, just one of the many anal retentive little things I like to do to my systems. Here is what I like to do and why:

Hard Lines: always and everywhere ya can. They look better, they support solenoids without the need for solenoid brackets, and their inner diameter stay constant under pressure.

Line Bias: nitrous line (from solenoid to nozzle) should be roughly double the length of the fuel line. I have not put enough effort into researching this to find out exactly what lengths at what pressures work ideally but from what I have seen a 50% bias gets ya in the ballpark. You will notice that the system will hit quicker and will not have any of the bucking/sputtering crap going on that plagues a lot of single nozzle users.


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Posts in this topic
- Punch   N2o NOS ZEX NX   Jan 19, 2006 - 10:43 AM
- - Supersprynt   RE: N2o NOS ZEX NX   Jan 19, 2006 - 11:50 AM
- - playr158   if your 3s swapping there is no need for Nitrous   Jan 19, 2006 - 11:51 AM
- - jgreening   I have done a fair amount of reading about the top...   Jan 19, 2006 - 11:54 AM
- - GMoney   hey man there is no need for the Nos right now ......   Jan 19, 2006 - 11:57 AM
- - playr158   say nitrous please NOS is a brand not the actual ...   Jan 19, 2006 - 12:07 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   id squirt if i had the money to have my motor -Pro...   Jan 19, 2006 - 1:36 PM
- - CilverSeliST205   Believe it or not but if you put as much effort in...   Jan 19, 2006 - 2:03 PM
- - purplegt4   i say if u know -the differences between each ap...   Jan 19, 2006 - 2:19 PM
- - celicast3sgte   im considering the cryosystem or whatever its call...   Jan 19, 2006 - 9:02 PM
- - SHERMAN   QUOTEim considering the cryosystem or whatever its...   Jan 19, 2006 - 9:23 PM
- - 97sccelica   too expensive for the refills had a 100 shot on m...   Jan 19, 2006 - 10:01 PM
- - celicast3sgte   what motor and did you compensate for the nos with...   Jan 19, 2006 - 10:12 PM
- - JoKeRkId613   david, only do it if youre going with a direct por...   Jan 19, 2006 - 10:55 PM
- - lagos   its a good thing for a quick joyride, but a slow c...   Jan 19, 2006 - 11:24 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE(celicast3sgte @ Jan 19, 2006 - 7...   Jan 19, 2006 - 11:37 PM
- - Punch   gonna run a 50 shot direct port; hopefully with ab...   Jan 20, 2006 - 1:29 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Punch @ Jan 20, 2006 - 1:29 AM...   Jan 20, 2006 - 1:47 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 19, 2006 - 10:47 P...   Jan 20, 2006 - 1:26 PM
- - JoKeRkId613   QUOTE(97sccelica @ Jan 20, 2006 - 11...   Jan 21, 2006 - 12:47 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(97sccelica @ Jan 20, 2006 - 1...   Jan 21, 2006 - 2:30 AM
- - Punch   no blowing up over here... i will keep u all info...   Jan 21, 2006 - 4:58 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   What is this doing in the Turbo forum? Is nitrous...   Jan 21, 2006 - 1:25 PM
- - shin   erm just to clarify things. he intends to put the ...   Jan 21, 2006 - 1:28 PM
- - Cutrara   How did he blow his 5S? Nitrous? lol   Jan 21, 2006 - 8:03 PM
- - JoKeRkId613   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Jan 21, 2006 - ...   Jan 21, 2006 - 9:18 PM
- - Punch   yup dam bearing....   Jan 23, 2006 - 2:28 AM
- - kenjamatic   had a friend that went through 3 5sfe motors on hi...   Jan 23, 2006 - 3:57 PM
- - Punch   a little nitrous = alot of fun... Its not gonna b...   Jan 24, 2006 - 12:06 AM
- - NuclearHappineS   i hate this thread. did your friend that go throu...   Jan 29, 2006 - 10:14 AM
- - NuclearHappineS   'im talking about the "getting a pro to t...   Jan 29, 2006 - 10:34 AM
- - NuclearHappineS   to quote a very intelligent nitrous user (runs his...   Jan 29, 2006 - 10:48 AM
- - Punch   I will go for it, it will be in the car soon...   Feb 7, 2006 - 2:56 AM


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