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post Jan 30, 2006 - 3:28 PM
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When im runing 7 psi everything is fine. but as soon as get up to like 10 11 psi my eninge gets all wacked out.

at 10 11 psi it makes a really bad sputtering sound, jerks around and loses power. Is this the 2 bar map sensor doing that boost cut, is it cutting fuel?

i have an mbc on it because before the turbo was only doing like 4 psi. I had to take the cap off the nipple on the second pipe of the waste gate to get it to do 7 psi. Now i have it caped off with the mbc set at 7 and have problems with it when i get up int he 10 psi range.

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post Jan 31, 2006 - 3:59 AM
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if the CEL is coming on it's fuel cut for sure...

the 5sfe ecu will throw a CEL when it sees too much voltage from teh map sensor... when this disappears the CEL will go off

the 3sgte ecu on the other hand with throw a CEL when it sees too much voltagefrom the map sensor, but it will keep the CEL on until you turn off and turn on your car again...and untill you do that it will kill power to the turbo vacuum switching valve locking you in limp mode which is 5-7psi

if the CEL is blinking on then it's gotta be fuel cut...

time for some sort of FCD , be aware though, that if you do bypass fuel cut (fcd, zener diode, different safc settings ...etc) your fuel will definately be affected above 10psi (where the FCD is active) because your fuel is based directly on your map reading

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post Jan 31, 2006 - 4:25 AM
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QUOTE(NuclearHappineS @ Jan 31, 2006 - 8:59 AM) [snapback]386894[/snapback]

if the CEL is coming on it's fuel cut for sure...

the 5sfe ecu will throw a CEL when it sees too much voltage from teh map sensor... when this disappears the CEL will go off

the 3sgte ecu on the other hand with throw a CEL when it sees too much voltagefrom the map sensor, but it will keep the CEL on until you turn off and turn on your car again...and untill you do that it will kill power to the turbo vacuum switching valve locking you in limp mode which is 5-7psi

if the CEL is blinking on then it's gotta be fuel cut...

time for some sort of FCD , be aware though, that if you do bypass fuel cut (fcd, zener diode, different safc settings ...etc) your fuel will definately be affected above 10psi (where the FCD is active) because your fuel is based directly on your map reading

-nuke


Since he's running the SAFC2, he should be able to upgrade the injectors another step and then reduce the MAP sensor voltage across the board, to keep a/f on (and stay below the fuel cut votage), correct?

-Doc

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Posts in this topic
- urbandork   somethigns rong 5sfte   Jan 30, 2006 - 3:28 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   are u running the proper Gap on the plugs?   Jan 30, 2006 - 3:37 PM
- - urbandork   yup .30 right? thats what i set it at when i put t...   Jan 30, 2006 - 3:45 PM
- - lagos   sounds like detonation what injectors and piggy b...   Jan 30, 2006 - 3:49 PM
- - urbandork   safc2 and ngk i forget the number but they are cop...   Jan 30, 2006 - 4:00 PM
- - lagos   what injectors are u running?...not spark plugs...   Jan 30, 2006 - 4:04 PM
- - urbandork   im running 42 pound bosch injectors so about 441cc...   Jan 30, 2006 - 5:03 PM
- - NuclearHappineS   if you hit fuel cut you should see the Check engin...   Jan 30, 2006 - 5:18 PM
- - urbandork   ngk plugs bkr7es11 255 lph fuel pump I think my ...   Jan 30, 2006 - 6:21 PM
- - presure2   urban, is it RPM dependant or boost dependant? wha...   Jan 30, 2006 - 7:27 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   u have u btm at 3?! u only need to set it at ....   Jan 30, 2006 - 7:46 PM
|- - urbandork   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Jan 31, 2006 - 12...   Jan 30, 2006 - 8:39 PM
- - NuclearHappineS   if the CEL is coming on it's fuel cut for sure...   Jan 31, 2006 - 3:59 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(NuclearHappineS @ Jan 31, 2006 - 8...   Jan 31, 2006 - 4:25 AM
- - presure2   you shouldnt be hitting fuel cut @ 10-11psi, ive h...   Jan 31, 2006 - 9:34 AM
- - urbandork   QUOTE(presure2 @ Jan 31, 2006 - 2:34...   Jan 31, 2006 - 11:43 AM
- - dlx742   it sound ur leaning out, ive had this happen befor...   Feb 4, 2006 - 12:12 AM
- - presure2   craig, you said on AIM you had to ADD fuel up top?...   Feb 4, 2006 - 8:51 AM
- - urbandork   manny. although im adding that much fuel most of t...   Feb 4, 2006 - 12:28 PM
- - presure2   im not concerned with what your gauge reads. if yo...   Feb 4, 2006 - 2:49 PM
- - rjbibeau   sounds like a fuel filter issue. your car is a 95 ...   Feb 5, 2006 - 2:13 PM
|- - urbandork   well i got the new fuel filter in and also changed...   Feb 10, 2006 - 5:38 PM
- - presure2   yes, it will. that should be in your intercooler p...   Feb 10, 2006 - 6:53 PM
- - CheesyLobster   QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 10, 2006 - 3:53...   Feb 10, 2006 - 8:08 PM
- - urbandork   QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Feb 11, 2006 - 1...   Feb 10, 2006 - 11:43 PM


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