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post Jan 30, 2006 - 8:52 PM
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94STcoupeKyle

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Hey i just now got home from picking up my 4A-ge its the 16 valve, i wish i could have gotten the 20v but hey i just about stole this motor, i got it for $75 bucks,

it only has 25,000 miles, its a japan spec 4a-ge.



What could i put on it to make it about as fast as the 20v




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Please dont rag on me for being the 16valve, i kinda wanted to be original

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post Jan 31, 2006 - 9:45 PM
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How much difference is between the smallport and the bigport?
like the HP and internals?


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post Jan 31, 2006 - 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(94STcoupeKyle @ Feb 1, 2006 - 2:45 AM) [snapback]387303[/snapback]

How much difference is between the smallport and the bigport?
like the HP and internals?

There were two versions of the bigport... the 7rib block version and 3rib block version. The later (87.5-89) had the 7 rib blocks with 42mm rod journals as opposed to the older bigports with 3 rib blocks and 40mm rod journals. The newer big internal versions also used different piston pins, which were full float with clips as opposed to the older ones which used 18mm press fit piston pins. The older "smaller" internal versions aren't as strong as the much more stout "big" internal versions. I wish I can find pictures of the rods side by side to show the significant differences in size and strength... however, the side effect of the "big" internal version of the bigport engine was that it made less power because of the added weight of its moving parts. The good thing about it, was it was a hell of a lot stronger than the small internal version. The reason this engine was called "BIGPORT" is because of the intake design and the head's ports. Bigports used TVIS, which were a series of butterflys built into the intake manifold designed to increase intake velocity and in turn, increase low-end torque. Smallports, which came much later (1990+) eliminated this system. Bigports made anywhere from 112-127 hp depending on which ecu and metering system is used. Mechanically speaking... there is no difference between the motors besides the big and small internals. The heads, compression, etc, were all identical.

Smallports are just that... they have smaller intake ports and were designed to eliminate TVIS. Because TVIS was eliminated, they do have slightly less grunt in the low-end, but make up for it with a superior port design and higher compression. Smallports had the 7rib "big" internal block with high compression pistons (10:3:1). That's pretty much it as far as differences go. The rest is pretty much the same as the bigport. Smallports made about the same amount of torque as the bigport, however on a very different curve. They however, made more horsepower... between 130-140 depending on the ECU and metering system (MAP or AFM).

Visit Bill Sherwood's page for more detailed information...

http://www.billzilla.org/4agstock.htm

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- 94STcoupeKyle   Just picked up!! SmallPort 4A-GE!   Jan 30, 2006 - 8:52 PM
- - devilsden97   for $75....WTF wow, my only hope is that its ...   Jan 30, 2006 - 8:55 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   That motor sound be pretty simple to turbo, if you...   Jan 30, 2006 - 9:00 PM
- - 94STcoupeKyle   the guy gave me the receipt where he baught it lik...   Jan 30, 2006 - 9:09 PM
- - purplegt4   holy crap $75! nice gL   Jan 30, 2006 - 9:10 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(94STcoupeKyle @ Jan 30, 2006 - 9...   Jan 30, 2006 - 9:14 PM
- - Kwanza26   That is a smallport 4AGE... high compression (10:3...   Jan 30, 2006 - 10:00 PM
- - BBoYRuGGeD   wow great find! g'luck with it! bboy   Jan 31, 2006 - 1:17 AM
- - CelicaZR   You got yourself a bargain I know some people he...   Jan 31, 2006 - 1:43 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   Wow, a smallport! You got a really good deal t...   Jan 31, 2006 - 2:17 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   I vote megasquirt. This would be awsome to see it...   Jan 31, 2006 - 2:23 AM
- - 94STcoupeKyle   Hey guys, i didnt even relize it was a smallport...   Jan 31, 2006 - 4:40 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   I think it's rated at 130 or 135. -Doc   Jan 31, 2006 - 4:52 AM
- - 94STcoupeKyle   Thanks Doc, How many people have smallports on t...   Jan 31, 2006 - 7:58 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(94STcoupeKyle @ Jan 31, 2006 - 12...   Jan 31, 2006 - 10:59 AM
- - SHERMAN   good find on the motor. thats a deal.   Jan 31, 2006 - 10:43 AM
- - 94STcoupeKyle   ok i just checked that stuff out and it looks pret...   Jan 31, 2006 - 8:51 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(94STcoupeKyle @ Feb 1, 2006 - 1...   Jan 31, 2006 - 9:13 PM
- - 94STcoupeKyle   yea i know i should, i was jw. how close is the s...   Jan 31, 2006 - 9:18 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(94STcoupeKyle @ Feb 1, 2006 - 2...   Jan 31, 2006 - 9:25 PM
- - 94STcoupeKyle   How much difference is between the smallport and t...   Jan 31, 2006 - 9:45 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(94STcoupeKyle @ Feb 1, 2006 - 2...   Jan 31, 2006 - 10:02 PM
- - 94STcoupeKyle   Dang! thanks for the info it really helped. ...   Jan 31, 2006 - 10:07 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(94STcoupeKyle @ Feb 1, 2006 - 3...   Jan 31, 2006 - 10:09 PM
- - 94STcoupeKyle   Yea thats what i though but i wasnt sure, yea im n...   Jan 31, 2006 - 10:10 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(94STcoupeKyle @ Feb 1, 2006 - 3...   Jan 31, 2006 - 10:12 PM
- - 94STcoupeKyle   How much would a stand alone ecu would cost me?   Feb 1, 2006 - 8:46 AM
- - yungazzdriver   well megasquirt is the best bang for your buck but...   Feb 1, 2006 - 1:04 PM
- - 94STcoupeKyle   right now im trying to get everything together so ...   Feb 1, 2006 - 9:04 PM


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