7th gen motor in a 6th Gen? Options

[VancouverChik94]

Is it possible to put a 7th gen GTS motor ( 180HP VVTL-i) into a 6th Gen GTS ?

[purplegt4]

well now that that's settled...

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IMO its more about driveability & ability to drive.

it's unorthodox for fwd to have that much power because the car will push in the turns. and yes it does come down to the driver @ this point. this is why no fwd car is manufactured with 250+ hp. it's against engineering, impractical, & unwise. Especially for a daily driver. Which is why honda & toyota, two leaders in sport compact cars, have their cars (referring to dc2-5 integra type-R's, zzt23x celica gt-s, and even st202 with a beams 3sge) both high RPM, higher HP units, mounted in FWD cars.

comments about an SRT-4 arise (fwd, turbocharged and intercooled 2.4-liter double overhead camshaft (DOHC) 16-valve 4-cylinder engine produces...230 horsepower and 250 lb-ft of torque. reference) such that it has too much torque/torque steer for a car. That is comparable to a 3s-gte mounted in a GT/ST 6gcelica. for a fwd to have so much tq/hp that means when turning you would have to ease up, or have a lighter foot on the gas or else you're gonna get a new set of tires everytime you change your oil. High horsepower/high torque cars are engineered to be mounted in awd/rwd vehicles. (i.e. ST205 celica gt-four)

Tech Notes from Toysport on 2zz-ge vs 1zz-ge is very interesting because it mentions:

It is very interesting to note the difference between the two engines. The 1ZZFE and 2ZZGE are of the same displacement, but their bore and stroke are different. The 1ZZFE “izzy” with the FE head is the quick response, high torque model- has a longer stroke ratio, to further improve the torque characteristic. The 2ZZGE “duzzy” with the sports type GE head is the high RPM, higher HP unit- with a square bore / stroke ratio. This allows it to rev and deliver power in the higher RPM range.

The driving characteristic of both engines are dramatically evident. In the 2000 Celica, where both engines are offered- the GT with the 1ZZFE is easier and smoother to drive- more responsive. The GTS with the 2ZZGE starts of lazier, and need lots of pedal- but ultimately more HP. Which is a good contrast- drivers now know the trade-off between drivability and horsepower. A lot of people who tested the cars opted for the more responsive GT model, although they were initially looking for power. The power band characteristic of the two engines offer a good choice- chooses which is more important.

This is very similar, when compared to the current argument.