7th gen motor in a 6th Gen? Options

[VancouverChik94]

Is it possible to put a 7th gen GTS motor ( 180HP VVTL-i) into a 6th Gen GTS ?

[celicaST]

thanks for keeping this thread alive degh, some good info in it. lets just keep it on topic discussing 2zz swap. no more arguing, because we all know what arguing on the internet is like... special olympics anyone?

good post man... but just wanted to point out something. im pretty sure that a lot of accura sedans have 200-250 hp in their fwd modles. hondas, celicas, etc... are not produced with that much power, becasue they are ment to be economy cars for daily driving and great gas milage.

also there is something about torque steer that people seem to forget. it dosnt happen when u are daily driving, or even doing a spirited run. its only a problem when you FLOOR the gas in 1st and 2nd gear and as long as you dont punch the gas, its not a big issue in a car thats making 200-250hp fwd. and even when it is a "problem" its the type of thing that is easy to control and kind of takes your breath away (in a good way) as you experience that much power.

i think 200-250 is perfect in a fwd car. ask anyone else who is making the same power (3sgte, 5sfe,etc) and they will prbably agree that it feels just perfect. so much that toyota could have sold the car just like this. i never noiced any negative changes in the way my car handles or drives. its still a celica, except now, when u give it some gas, it dosnt disappoint you like it used to with the stock motor.

i think most of the issues you talk about, start to become a problem at the 300-400 hp level on a fwd car.

good points. although i would guess most production fwd cars with 200-250 hp arent as light as a 6g. either way i think your right about 200-250 being optimal in fwd setup. i rode in a 5th gen with 3s swap (didnt drive it though) and it did seem controlable for daily driving, but its also had enough power to give you that rush when you want it.

also just out of curiousity, all else being equal, how much lighter would a 2zz swap be (in comparison to 3sgte)? any ballpark ideas?