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post Feb 14, 2006 - 12:54 AM
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ok, first off, this is NOT a thread to debate whether this product is beneficial or not (ill put that to rest soon enough). ive argued the idea of an electric supercharger on the other thread, so NONE of that here. plus i guarantee you will lose the argument cwm13.gif tongue.gif this thread is to document my experience with this controversial product. i realize im taking a gamble, but for $300 i figured i might as well. i wouldnt have bought it unless i was confident it would work. this is what im getting for those who dont know. it is a 833watt, 25000rpm motor capable of delivering 800 CFM in free air
user posted image 2006 e-ram
it will be installed between the throttle body and the existing stock airbox so as to retain cold air intake. so ill be the guinea pig, and i will post my honest impressions after installation. before you ask, i will dyno only if i can find one nearby, and for a good price. if youre so inclined for proof, feel free to paypal me the expense wink.gif
also, if all goes well, i plan to run the motor at 16.2 volts to increase its power to 1135 watts to increase boost pressure.

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post Feb 15, 2006 - 11:04 AM
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wow, look at all this action i missed last night laugh.gif obviously none of you read what i have written twice now. that is too keep the debate out of this thread. or, im guessing you have read it, but have chosen to disrespect me. talk about some self-control.

QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 15, 2006 - 3:35 AM) [snapback]394206[/snapback]

guy, if you wanna talk area under the curve, i got that one covered too.
like dustin said, your basicly paying about 100$ per HP with the eram.
i spent about 3500 on my turbo kit, and thats spending in a LOT of places i didnt have to.
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thats about a 90whp gain and 100+ft lbs...
that right there cost me basicly 35$ per hp...you tell me, which is more cost effective.
im sorry man, the e-ram is NOT gonna give you what a GOOD intake, header and exhaust is.


another impressive dyno, but absolutely no relavence to this topic.

QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 15, 2006 - 4:14 AM) [snapback]394213[/snapback]

i got some math for you


Eram + Celica = Slow Car


stop it, please. youre embarrassing yourself. now before you reply that im embarrassing myself for buying this, stop and read all of my posts. this is for fun, and its just to see if this product works, and i intend to do so.

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QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 14, 2006 - 3:46 PM) [snapback]393892[/snapback]

QUOTE(CelicaSTX02 @ Feb 14, 2006 - 2:29 PM) [snapback]393887[/snapback]

How are you planning to prove to people if this thing does work? Are you saying people should just take your word for it or are you gonna show some testing results (i.e dyno tests, videos or your runs w/ and w/out the eram, or g-tech testings).


good question, although i would hope people would take my word for it, i know thats not the case. im not working for eracing tongue.gif and i wouldnt want anybody else to waster 300 bucks if thats what happens to me. i will look for a dyno around here, but i wont if it its too much of an inconvenience, im not here to please everyone else smile.gif i will post speedometer videos of it disconnected/connected, and my review will be detailed. again im not expecting drastic performance increase, however, i believe for 300 bucks it will produce more gains than exhaust, headers, intake would. anybody coming to the colorado meet can try it for themselves (hopefully by then ill be running it at 16.2volts and 1135 watts). i dont have a g-tech. i will make an effort to get a dyno done, because im interested in the actual results myself.


Take your word for it? Surely, you don't expect people to do that. You sound very knowledgable in the scientific method. Can you imagine a scientist saying "I just found the cure to cancer but I can't demonstrate it to you - just take this pill - its only $300"?


jay, thats why i said "i know thats not the case." trust me, i will document my results the best way i can, and i will post all data i have collected before i post my personal impressions.

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QUOTE(Hanyo @ Feb 15, 2006 - 6:36 AM) [snapback]394220[/snapback]

you have no proof it creates 3 hp.

for all i know it might not even create any. so that is why its pointless argueing any further about eram, but to create our minds open on this topic.

what do you mean i have no proof? the dynosheet is right on the first page, taken right from the eram site.
and BTW, im not arguing, just providing information, so that before all the kids on this site look at this post and say OHHHH imma gain MAD tizight hp yo, they might think about it seriously for a minute.
i mean really. your BEARLY gonna even feel 3-4whp..hell, i can see a 3-5whp diffrence from RUN TO RUN on the dyno. with no changes.



QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 15, 2006 - 5:10 AM) [snapback]394227[/snapback]

guy, do you "tune" your car when you put on an exhaust? or intake?
i mean really, how much can you "tune" for 3hp? LMAO
regardless whether its a celica or a mr2, the gains will be VERY close, if not the same.
ohh and BTW...if this thing actually did create "boost"
youd throw a code, and the car will run like junk, because of the map sensor.


first of all, the significance of a 3hp gain depends on the car at hand. 3hp on a 7afe is going to be felt more as a change than an enzo. so in other words, its the percentage gain that matters. and remember, a 3-5hp gain at all rpms is quite different than a 3-5 hp spike at a certain rpm. now, i know 3hp isnt going to be a big difference one way or the other. however, we dont know what it will produce, so lets quit arguing. please just respect my thread, you are a grown man, and wait until i post results.

*also, remember im in colorado, which is one of the reasons im more confident in buying it. because the air density is already 12.5% lower than at sea level, any boost this does create will be well with the ecus data map.


QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Feb 15, 2006 - 8:27 AM) [snapback]394267[/snapback]

Just wait and see, pointless arguing is not going to show the dyno results, or how much he is spending per hp. wink.gif

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exactly.

This post has been edited by celicaST: Feb 15, 2006 - 11:25 AM


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- celicaST   the e-ram   Feb 14, 2006 - 12:54 AM
- - lagos   good luck   Feb 14, 2006 - 1:44 AM
- - Blakout16   this should be interesting O.o if it does work, u ...   Feb 14, 2006 - 1:47 AM
- - GT4WRC   If you were that desperate to waste $300, you...   Feb 14, 2006 - 1:56 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   You're not going to use the new filter? I rea...   Feb 14, 2006 - 12:31 PM
- - Boss-Celica   Honestly I would like to see this thing work. Good...   Feb 14, 2006 - 12:41 PM
- - burneeed   good luck.............   Feb 14, 2006 - 12:43 PM
- - sugarfree   Will you need a BOV also?   Feb 14, 2006 - 1:10 PM
- - TheStreetzKing   you realize if this works everyones gonna be buyin...   Feb 14, 2006 - 1:16 PM
- - Celicaca   good luck man. reveal the truth!   Feb 14, 2006 - 2:16 PM
- - celicaST   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 13, 2006 - 11:44 P...   Feb 14, 2006 - 4:17 PM
- - CelicaSTX02   How are you planning to prove to people if this th...   Feb 14, 2006 - 4:29 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(CelicaSTX02 @ Feb 14, 2006 - 2...   Feb 14, 2006 - 4:46 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 14, 2006 - 3:46...   Feb 15, 2006 - 6:22 AM
- - Predator   why would he lie about such a thing anyways? it wo...   Feb 14, 2006 - 4:43 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Check your 0-60 and 0-100 time now. And then chec...   Feb 14, 2006 - 6:01 PM
- - presure2   from the eram website N/A mr2 (more than likely 5s...   Feb 14, 2006 - 7:18 PM
|- - Batman722   the moral of the story is this... the 5s (MR2) is...   Feb 14, 2006 - 10:07 PM
|- - GT4WRC   QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 14, 2006 - 7:18...   Feb 15, 2006 - 3:16 AM
- - CheesyLobster   I don't doubt that it wont work if the fan is ...   Feb 14, 2006 - 8:25 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Feb 14, 2006 - 6...   Feb 14, 2006 - 8:41 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 14, 2006 - 7:18...   Feb 14, 2006 - 9:53 PM
- - 97lestyousay   I think a guy could make a 12 volt converted hard ...   Feb 14, 2006 - 10:20 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 14, 2006 - 9:53 PM...   Feb 14, 2006 - 10:46 PM
- - BlackSTX   I wonder how well it would work WITH an intake/hea...   Feb 14, 2006 - 10:57 PM
- - snapshotgt   Celica St, i don't know why you posted this ne...   Feb 14, 2006 - 11:00 PM
- - lilsteeg   QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Feb 14, 2006 - 8...   Feb 14, 2006 - 11:06 PM
- - lilsteeg   you know what every1 is forgetting to mention, thi...   Feb 14, 2006 - 11:12 PM
- - celicaST   ok i get back from my vday date, and this is the c...   Feb 15, 2006 - 12:35 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE ok, the eram draws power from the battery, n...   Feb 15, 2006 - 12:56 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 14, 2006 - 10:56 P...   Feb 15, 2006 - 1:04 AM
- - playr158   upgrade the alternator then.... but nitrous oxide...   Feb 15, 2006 - 1:05 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 14, 2006 - 11:0...   Feb 15, 2006 - 1:07 AM
- - lagos   QUOTEim a mechanical engineer, and it seems highly...   Feb 15, 2006 - 1:39 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 14, 2006 - 11:39 P...   Feb 15, 2006 - 2:24 AM
- - rza619   not trying to defend the eram or anything but that...   Feb 15, 2006 - 3:27 AM
- - Hanyo   Why is everyone argueing about how it works? For a...   Feb 15, 2006 - 3:43 AM
- - presure2   guy, if you wanna talk area under the curve, i got...   Feb 15, 2006 - 5:35 AM
- - Hanyo   according to your math, he will only need to see a...   Feb 15, 2006 - 6:05 AM
- - lagos   i got some math for you Eram + Celica = Slow Ca...   Feb 15, 2006 - 6:14 AM
- - presure2   by your math the eram is +3whp 3/300=.01 god this ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 6:15 AM
- - Hanyo   we have no proof it creates 3 hp. for all i know...   Feb 15, 2006 - 6:36 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(Hanyo @ Feb 15, 2006 - 6:36 AM...   Feb 15, 2006 - 6:42 AM
- - Hanyo   i know about the dynosheets, i'm waiting for t...   Feb 15, 2006 - 6:59 AM
- - presure2   guy, do you "tune" your car when you put...   Feb 15, 2006 - 7:10 AM
- - Hanyo   kwanza put on bolt ons ( i/h/e)and tuned it. He go...   Feb 15, 2006 - 7:16 AM
- - Jeremy1210   QUOTETake your word for it? Surely, you don't ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 9:37 AM
- - snapshotgt   Just wait and see, pointless arguing is not going ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 10:27 AM
- - celicaST   wow, look at all this action i missed last night ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:04 AM
- - defgeph   I can not believe this thread. I'm kinda of in...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:05 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(defgeph @ Feb 15, 2006 - 9:05 ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:21 AM
- - playr158   MWAHHAHAHA i love that jeff!   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:10 AM
- - tim86   i love it how all the 3sgte/turbo guys are math wi...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:14 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   I didn't think this was a debate thread. I th...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:32 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 15, 2006 - ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:36 AM
- - defgeph   I did read this entire thread, I've kept a tig...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:37 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(defgeph @ Feb 15, 2006 - 9:37 ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:46 AM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 15, 2006 - 10:4...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:54 AM
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|- - defgeph   QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Feb 15, 2006 - 11...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:42 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Feb 15, 2006 - 9...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:52 AM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 15, 2006 - 10:5...   Feb 15, 2006 - 12:00 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Feb 15, 2006 - 10...   Feb 15, 2006 - 12:06 PM
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|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 15, 2006 - 9...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:57 AM
- - defgeph   two more questions. What you you going to use to...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:50 AM
- - Supersprynt   Theres to many variables in your before an after t...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:56 AM
|- - defgeph   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 15, 2006 - 11...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:56 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 15, 2006 - 9...   Feb 15, 2006 - 12:01 PM
- - Supersprynt   I think theres too many confounding variables in y...   Feb 15, 2006 - 12:07 PM
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