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post Feb 14, 2006 - 12:54 AM
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ok, first off, this is NOT a thread to debate whether this product is beneficial or not (ill put that to rest soon enough). ive argued the idea of an electric supercharger on the other thread, so NONE of that here. plus i guarantee you will lose the argument cwm13.gif tongue.gif this thread is to document my experience with this controversial product. i realize im taking a gamble, but for $300 i figured i might as well. i wouldnt have bought it unless i was confident it would work. this is what im getting for those who dont know. it is a 833watt, 25000rpm motor capable of delivering 800 CFM in free air
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it will be installed between the throttle body and the existing stock airbox so as to retain cold air intake. so ill be the guinea pig, and i will post my honest impressions after installation. before you ask, i will dyno only if i can find one nearby, and for a good price. if youre so inclined for proof, feel free to paypal me the expense wink.gif
also, if all goes well, i plan to run the motor at 16.2 volts to increase its power to 1135 watts to increase boost pressure.

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post Feb 15, 2006 - 5:51 PM
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man every time i get back from class, someone has to start it up again tongue.gif

i said no more but just had to resond to some nonsense. ok last post, and then im requesting a lock.

QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 15, 2006 - 11:07 AM) [snapback]394359[/snapback]

If you know how to run an experiment then run it properly. Dyno testing it with it powered/unpowered is worthless because its still in there and now creating an obtrusion to airflow. Nobody cares what it does unpowered, people would be interested in its gain powered vs. a short ram & CAI. If your going to run bogus tests like what MPH I am at mile-marker 88 then this entire experiment is a waste of time.


haha so let me get this straight. you want me to put on and take off a sri, cai, and the eram and take multiple dynos of them all at one dyno session. sorry aint gunna happen. but lets face it. no matter what results i get or how well i collect my data, its not going to convince you, lagos, manny, or anybody else that is so close-minded. being skeptical is ok (in fact its a necessary and great quality to have), but those who discount an idea before its been tested arent ever going to accept anything besides what they know. hell im still skeptical if it will work. thats why im TESTING it. take jay, its obvious hes very skeptical, but he appears to have an open mind about it. the rest of you are spouting your opinions as fact, and are already trying to discount any results i come up with.

now here was my dyno plan, take it or leave it. two trips to dyno:

1st session: run A-run my stock setup as is; run B- run my stock setup with kn replacement filter

tada, one variable

2nd session: run C- eram intalled (turned off) with kn filter; run D- eram installed (turned on) with kn filter

tada again, one variable between B and C, and one between D and C, and one between D and B. if you think about it, those 4 runs could provide a lot of info (for example, B vs C would show restriction of eram installed, B vs D would show relative improvement eram gained over the kn filter)

now i know they wouldnt be at the same time so atmospheric conditions would change a bit, but thats the best i could do without extra effort or a lot of runs (=money) to please you. but im sure its not good enough for you rolleyes.gif

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this is just sad. sad that people know so little about cars that they will belive just about any claims a business will make. this is just like the "tornado" or some type of fuel line magnet that claims to save gas or the daily emails about pills that will make my penis larger. these things just dont work, plain and simple.

i know that a lot of you guys think .... " it will work! the swpers/turbo guys on here just think they are better then us". this is not the case at all, "we flame because we care". i dont want to see all of you guys wasting your hard earned money on this scam . go out and get an intake, exhaust, underdrive pully, light flywheel, timing advance, weight reduction, suspension, larger throttle body, etc... make the NA celica all it can be through proven methods instead of buying into scams on the internet.


you just wont stop will ya? you know whats really sad? how some of you who have swapped makes you think you know everything about how cars work. anybody can save 5k and swap. granted, you do know about the details of the 6g than me. but since you implied that i "know so little about cars," let me say that i can almost guarantee ive forgotten more about machine design and operation than youve ever known bud. you dont "flame because you care" you flame because you want everybody to think youre right. like i said, everytime you say you KNOW it doesnt work without proof thats just as bad as someone saying they KNOW it works without proof. by the way, dont compare this to the tornado or penis pills lol.

by the way, heres a thought experiment for you. what if you had a great idea for a product of some sort and you wanted to market it. lets say your product did something different that most people werent familar with. now with a market full of products that are scams, how would you market it to show people it works. its tough.



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- celicaST   the e-ram   Feb 14, 2006 - 12:54 AM
- - lagos   good luck   Feb 14, 2006 - 1:44 AM
- - Blakout16   this should be interesting O.o if it does work, u ...   Feb 14, 2006 - 1:47 AM
- - GT4WRC   If you were that desperate to waste $300, you...   Feb 14, 2006 - 1:56 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   You're not going to use the new filter? I rea...   Feb 14, 2006 - 12:31 PM
- - Boss-Celica   Honestly I would like to see this thing work. Good...   Feb 14, 2006 - 12:41 PM
- - burneeed   good luck.............   Feb 14, 2006 - 12:43 PM
- - sugarfree   Will you need a BOV also?   Feb 14, 2006 - 1:10 PM
- - TheStreetzKing   you realize if this works everyones gonna be buyin...   Feb 14, 2006 - 1:16 PM
- - Celicaca   good luck man. reveal the truth!   Feb 14, 2006 - 2:16 PM
- - celicaST   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 13, 2006 - 11:44 P...   Feb 14, 2006 - 4:17 PM
- - CelicaSTX02   How are you planning to prove to people if this th...   Feb 14, 2006 - 4:29 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(CelicaSTX02 @ Feb 14, 2006 - 2...   Feb 14, 2006 - 4:46 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 14, 2006 - 3:46...   Feb 15, 2006 - 6:22 AM
- - Predator   why would he lie about such a thing anyways? it wo...   Feb 14, 2006 - 4:43 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Check your 0-60 and 0-100 time now. And then chec...   Feb 14, 2006 - 6:01 PM
- - presure2   from the eram website N/A mr2 (more than likely 5s...   Feb 14, 2006 - 7:18 PM
|- - Batman722   the moral of the story is this... the 5s (MR2) is...   Feb 14, 2006 - 10:07 PM
|- - GT4WRC   QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 14, 2006 - 7:18...   Feb 15, 2006 - 3:16 AM
- - CheesyLobster   I don't doubt that it wont work if the fan is ...   Feb 14, 2006 - 8:25 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Feb 14, 2006 - 6...   Feb 14, 2006 - 8:41 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 14, 2006 - 7:18...   Feb 14, 2006 - 9:53 PM
- - 97lestyousay   I think a guy could make a 12 volt converted hard ...   Feb 14, 2006 - 10:20 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 14, 2006 - 9:53 PM...   Feb 14, 2006 - 10:46 PM
- - BlackSTX   I wonder how well it would work WITH an intake/hea...   Feb 14, 2006 - 10:57 PM
- - snapshotgt   Celica St, i don't know why you posted this ne...   Feb 14, 2006 - 11:00 PM
- - lilsteeg   QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Feb 14, 2006 - 8...   Feb 14, 2006 - 11:06 PM
- - lilsteeg   you know what every1 is forgetting to mention, thi...   Feb 14, 2006 - 11:12 PM
- - celicaST   ok i get back from my vday date, and this is the c...   Feb 15, 2006 - 12:35 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE ok, the eram draws power from the battery, n...   Feb 15, 2006 - 12:56 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 14, 2006 - 10:56 P...   Feb 15, 2006 - 1:04 AM
- - playr158   upgrade the alternator then.... but nitrous oxide...   Feb 15, 2006 - 1:05 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 14, 2006 - 11:0...   Feb 15, 2006 - 1:07 AM
- - lagos   QUOTEim a mechanical engineer, and it seems highly...   Feb 15, 2006 - 1:39 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 14, 2006 - 11:39 P...   Feb 15, 2006 - 2:24 AM
- - rza619   not trying to defend the eram or anything but that...   Feb 15, 2006 - 3:27 AM
- - Hanyo   Why is everyone argueing about how it works? For a...   Feb 15, 2006 - 3:43 AM
- - presure2   guy, if you wanna talk area under the curve, i got...   Feb 15, 2006 - 5:35 AM
- - Hanyo   according to your math, he will only need to see a...   Feb 15, 2006 - 6:05 AM
- - lagos   i got some math for you Eram + Celica = Slow Ca...   Feb 15, 2006 - 6:14 AM
- - presure2   by your math the eram is +3whp 3/300=.01 god this ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 6:15 AM
- - Hanyo   we have no proof it creates 3 hp. for all i know...   Feb 15, 2006 - 6:36 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(Hanyo @ Feb 15, 2006 - 6:36 AM...   Feb 15, 2006 - 6:42 AM
- - Hanyo   i know about the dynosheets, i'm waiting for t...   Feb 15, 2006 - 6:59 AM
- - presure2   guy, do you "tune" your car when you put...   Feb 15, 2006 - 7:10 AM
- - Hanyo   kwanza put on bolt ons ( i/h/e)and tuned it. He go...   Feb 15, 2006 - 7:16 AM
- - Jeremy1210   QUOTETake your word for it? Surely, you don't ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 9:37 AM
- - snapshotgt   Just wait and see, pointless arguing is not going ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 10:27 AM
- - celicaST   wow, look at all this action i missed last night ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:04 AM
- - defgeph   I can not believe this thread. I'm kinda of in...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:05 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(defgeph @ Feb 15, 2006 - 9:05 ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:21 AM
- - playr158   MWAHHAHAHA i love that jeff!   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:10 AM
- - tim86   i love it how all the 3sgte/turbo guys are math wi...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:14 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   I didn't think this was a debate thread. I th...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:32 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 15, 2006 - ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:36 AM
- - defgeph   I did read this entire thread, I've kept a tig...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:37 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(defgeph @ Feb 15, 2006 - 9:37 ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:46 AM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 15, 2006 - 10:4...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:54 AM
- - WannabeGT4   I'm with Jeff on this one. If you don't ha...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:41 AM
|- - defgeph   QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Feb 15, 2006 - 11...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:42 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Feb 15, 2006 - 9...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:52 AM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 15, 2006 - 10:5...   Feb 15, 2006 - 12:00 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Feb 15, 2006 - 10...   Feb 15, 2006 - 12:06 PM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 15, 2006 - 6:14 AM...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:49 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 15, 2006 - 9...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:57 AM
- - defgeph   two more questions. What you you going to use to...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:50 AM
- - Supersprynt   Theres to many variables in your before an after t...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:56 AM
|- - defgeph   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 15, 2006 - 11...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:56 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 15, 2006 - 9...   Feb 15, 2006 - 12:01 PM
- - Supersprynt   I think theres too many confounding variables in y...   Feb 15, 2006 - 12:07 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 15, 2006 - 10...   Feb 15, 2006 - 12:11 PM
- - Supersprynt   If you know how to run an experiment then run it p...   Feb 15, 2006 - 1:07 PM
- - lagos   this is just sad. sad that people know so little ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 3:18 PM
- - lilsteeg   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 15, 2006 - 3:18 PM...   Feb 15, 2006 - 3:27 PM
- - Supersprynt   Those pills work, so stfu.   Feb 15, 2006 - 3:36 PM
|- - BBoYRuGGeD   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 15, 2006 - 8:18 PM...   Feb 15, 2006 - 4:13 PM
- - lilsteeg   QUOTE(BBoYRuGGeD @ Feb 15, 2006 - 4...   Feb 15, 2006 - 5:01 PM
- - Cutrara   QUOTE(Hanyo @ Feb 15, 2006 - 6:05 AM...   Feb 15, 2006 - 5:31 PM
- - celicaST   man every time i get back from class, someone has ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 5:51 PM
- - presure2   just for clarification, i never bashed on you, or ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 6:10 PM


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