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 Feb 15, 2006 - 3:14 AM
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Hey guys and girls on 6gc.net,
I juz want to know how the 3sgte compares to the SR20DET, EJ20DET, RB20DET, 4G63 and other 2.0LTR turbos. Overall durability, revability, torque, internals (strength) etc. Is the 3sgte really a better overall package than the legendary SR20DET??? Cheers This post has been edited by NGHTKD: Feb 15, 2006 - 3:28 AM |
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Feb 18, 2006 - 1:37 AM
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QUOTE(Consynx @ Feb 18, 2006 - 12:56 AM) [snapback]395748[/snapback] won't you lose low-end power then? what's the advantage of doing that? the technology behind it makes sense, but i'm guessing there's some kind of lag for when it opens or somethin??? when it opens you feel an extra boost in power. it might be a benefit to disable it if you upgrade the turbo. they got rid of it in the 3rd gen 3sgte. most people agree that the tvis is a good thing on the stock ct26, but its set to open way too late. i would rather have it open up at about 3500 myself. This post has been edited by lagos: Feb 18, 2006 - 1:38 AM -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Feb 18, 2006 - 3:34 AM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 18, 2006 - 12:37 AM) [snapback]395753[/snapback] QUOTE(Consynx @ Feb 18, 2006 - 12:56 AM) [snapback]395748[/snapback] won't you lose low-end power then? what's the advantage of doing that? the technology behind it makes sense, but i'm guessing there's some kind of lag for when it opens or somethin??? when it opens you feel an extra boost in power. it might be a benefit to disable it if you upgrade the turbo. they got rid of it in the 3rd gen 3sgte. most people agree that the tvis is a good thing on the stock ct26, but its set to open way too late. i would rather have it open up at about 3500 myself. At low RPM, you want a smaller opening to keep air velocity high. At higher RPMs, the smaller opening becomes a restriction. The TVIS is designed to double the size of the opening at a preset RPM. If you look at two dyno plots of the same car, one with TVIS held open and one with TVIS held closed, you will see that the one with it closed has greater torque in the lower RPM's and the one with it held open has greater torque in the upper RPMs. The point that the torque lines cross is where you ideally want the TVIS to open. On most 3sgte's, I have read that is around 3700-3800. You can buy some simple electronics to change the set point, if you want. QUOTE(Punch @ Feb 18, 2006 - 2:28 AM) [snapback]395786[/snapback] the TVIS is more for NA car a turbo car does not realy need it... It only needs it to maximize performance in the low RPM's. But, I generally agree with you. This post has been edited by jgreening: Feb 18, 2006 - 9:21 PM -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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NGHTKD The 3sgte... Feb 15, 2006 - 3:14 AM
orvillescelica All teh engines you listed are built for turbo, so... Feb 15, 2006 - 4:23 AM Supersprynt The RB20DET is a 6cylinder engine. Feb 15, 2006 - 9:54 AM Consynx lmfao, i was just gonna say take the RB out, lol... Feb 15, 2006 - 4:51 PM lagos QUOTE the best of them is the 4g63. It has the pow... Feb 15, 2006 - 6:46 PM vangSTa_celica ^
Werd lagos. My 4G63 sucked so much butt. I di... Feb 16, 2006 - 1:13 AM Silver94CelicaOwner I work with a guy whos got a 4G63 in his 1st Gen. ... Feb 16, 2006 - 1:39 AM recneps stock for stock. the 4g63 is going to push the mos... Feb 16, 2006 - 8:53 PM burneeed ehhh all dsm guys will tell you how many problems ... Feb 16, 2006 - 9:54 PM x_itchy_b_x QUOTE(recneps @ Feb 16, 2006 - 10:53... Feb 17, 2006 - 5:42 PM
recneps QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Feb 17, 2006 - 10... Feb 19, 2006 - 11:06 PM Consynx i don't believe the 2nd gen 3S was designed to... Feb 17, 2006 - 5:54 PM lagos QUOTE(recneps @ Feb 16, 2006 - 8:53 ... Feb 17, 2006 - 10:18 PM Consynx won't you lose low-end power then?
what's ... Feb 18, 2006 - 12:56 AM Punch the TVIS is more for NA car a turbo car does not ... Feb 18, 2006 - 3:28 AM lilsteeg but the 4g63 had crank walk problems and doesnt ha... Feb 18, 2006 - 10:12 AM Consynx only the 2nd gen dsms had the crank-walk problem.
... Feb 18, 2006 - 12:24 PM jgreening QUOTE(Consynx @ Feb 18, 2006 - 11:24... Feb 18, 2006 - 9:21 PM lilsteeg QUOTE(Consynx @ Feb 18, 2006 - 12:24... Feb 19, 2006 - 11:28 AM Consynx MAP, yes
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