 Test Drove Cobalt SS, My Take |
 Mar 1, 2006 - 5:19 PM
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I test drove a Cobalt SS today. I was debating with some people about the traction issues with higher powered fwd cars which lead to this. I wanted to drive an srt-4, but I couldn't find a Dodge dealership close enough. I figured the supercharged Cobalt would be okay. The guy told me it was underated at 213hp to the wheels. I don't know about underated, but I'd believe 213. I wasn't really impressed though. I've driven faster. But with the traction, I didn't have a problem. It was the model without the LSD too. I've still got to find a srt-4, which I think will have more issues because of higher hp. But really, I didn't have a problem at all keeping traction. But, it was a nice dry day, and it has Z rated Prelli's on it.
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Mar 1, 2006 - 5:43 PM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 1, 2006 - 5:32 PM) [snapback]401483[/snapback] What is your point? Are you trying to suggest that this experience proves that you were right about high horsepower FWD cars not having traction problems? Come on now. No, I'm not saying I'm right. I'm still saying it's not to bad. This wasn't that high of hp, and it was a dry day with good tires. I have to do more testing. One test doesn't prove anything. I need to find a way to measure this. I don't think I have the tools to really make this a propper study, but I'll take opinions and ideas on what I should do. btw, that thing really put my Celica to shame. I'm not real happy with the slow POS again. -------------------- Live Free, Be Happy
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Mar 1, 2006 - 9:11 PM
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QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 1, 2006 - 3:43 PM) [snapback]401489[/snapback] QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 1, 2006 - 5:32 PM) [snapback]401483[/snapback] What is your point? Are you trying to suggest that this experience proves that you were right about high horsepower FWD cars not having traction problems? Come on now. No, I'm not saying I'm right. I'm still saying it's not to bad. This wasn't that high of hp, and it was a dry day with good tires. I have to do more testing. One test doesn't prove anything. I need to find a way to measure this. I don't think I have the tools to really make this a propper study, but I'll take opinions and ideas on what I should do. btw, that thing really put my Celica to shame. I'm not real happy with the slow POS again. there is no need for testing. high hp fwd cars are going to have traction issues. conservation of rotational inertia and the the fact that the cars center of mass is above the roads surface (therefore a moment is imposed on the car) are the two factors that cause "nosing up" during acceleration. theres really no way around it, acceleration causes a higher normal force to be placed on the rear tires, and therefore more torque can be applied before traction is lost. the cobalt ss and srt4 arent high enough horsepower where this will be a problem (and im willing to guess they both have a decent amount of mass over the front axel). This post has been edited by celicaST: Mar 1, 2006 - 9:46 PM --------------------  I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. |
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Bigmeanbulldog55 Test Drove Cobalt SS Mar 1, 2006 - 5:19 PM
jgreening QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 1, 2006 - 4... Mar 1, 2006 - 5:32 PM Bigmeanbulldog55 QUOTE(celicaST @ Mar 1, 2006 - 9:11 ... Mar 1, 2006 - 9:26 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 2, 2006 - 2... Mar 1, 2006 - 9:31 PM Kwanza26 Umm... high horsepower/torque FWD cars have seriou... Mar 1, 2006 - 9:27 PM Supersprynt I do believe that the Cobalt SS has boost kept low... Mar 1, 2006 - 9:34 PM Bigmeanbulldog55 EDIT: This post was dirrected at Kwanza, not Supe... Mar 1, 2006 - 9:40 PM Kwanza26 QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 2, 2006 - 2... Mar 1, 2006 - 9:56 PM celicaST QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 1, 2006 - 7... Mar 1, 2006 - 9:57 PM Bigmeanbulldog55 QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Mar 1, 2006 - 9:56 ... Mar 1, 2006 - 10:07 PM 97sccelica imo
any fwd car that is capable of going 12's... Mar 1, 2006 - 11:20 PM celicaST QUOTE(97sccelica @ Mar 1, 2006 - 9:2... Mar 1, 2006 - 11:28 PM Bigmeanbulldog55 I'm looking into STi's again now. Only th... Mar 1, 2006 - 11:54 PM creamed_corn Cobalt SS's are like 3000lbs... no two door sp... Mar 2, 2006 - 12:58 AM dlx742 QUOTEI just want to build an absolute monster. I... Mar 2, 2006 - 1:29 AM 95CelicaST There is a copy of Car&Driver down at work tha... Mar 2, 2006 - 12:41 PM creamed_corn QUOTE(95CelicaST @ Mar 2, 2006 - 1:4... Mar 2, 2006 - 1:18 PM Silver94CelicaOwner I would think its due to Honda just making a bette... Mar 2, 2006 - 7:51 PM Bigmeanbulldog55 Car and Driver is a good mag. I have a subscripti... Mar 2, 2006 - 8:44 PM jgreening QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 2, 2006 - 7... Mar 2, 2006 - 10:12 PM hitcachi Car and Driver has always been known for that crap... Mar 2, 2006 - 11:22 PM celicaST thought you might like these if you havnt seen the... Mar 3, 2006 - 5:17 PM Bigmeanbulldog55 ^Very cool. I would paint the intercooler black t... Mar 3, 2006 - 11:06 PM creamed_corn QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 4, 2006 - 1... Mar 3, 2006 - 11:50 PM Bigmeanbulldog55 QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Mar 3, 2006 - 11... Mar 4, 2006 - 12:09 AM lumbercis If you are worried about traction, buy an 5th gen ... Mar 4, 2006 - 3:07 AM 97sccelica QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 3, 2006 - 9... Mar 4, 2006 - 4:48 AM |
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