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post Mar 1, 2006 - 5:19 PM
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I test drove a Cobalt SS today. I was debating with some people about the traction issues with higher powered fwd cars which lead to this. I wanted to drive an srt-4, but I couldn't find a Dodge dealership close enough. I figured the supercharged Cobalt would be okay. The guy told me it was underated at 213hp to the wheels. I don't know about underated, but I'd believe 213. I wasn't really impressed though. I've driven faster. But with the traction, I didn't have a problem. It was the model without the LSD too. I've still got to find a srt-4, which I think will have more issues because of higher hp. But really, I didn't have a problem at all keeping traction. But, it was a nice dry day, and it has Z rated Prelli's on it.


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post Mar 1, 2006 - 9:40 PM
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EDIT: This post was dirrected at Kwanza, not Supersprynt. You're cool too Super, don't feel bad.

^^I think you have more experiance than anyone else I've talked to. The question for me was debating on swapping the Celica. I want something that will outrun almost any other street car in my town. A 12sec street car that is more than cabable on a road course. I don't really want to face the fact that a 3sgte is a waste. Looks like I might just be another one of those guys in an STi. After driving that Cobalt, it reminded me how much I like to go fast. I haven't driven anything fast for over a year. I just put around in the Celica. And I've got to say, at 213whp, I was not impressed. I want something so fast I can feel it in my eyes as I take off.

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post Mar 1, 2006 - 9:56 PM
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QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 2, 2006 - 2:40 AM) [snapback]401593[/snapback]

EDIT: This post was dirrected at Kwanza, not Supersprynt. You're cool too Super, don't feel bad.

^^I think you have more experiance than anyone else I've talked to. The question for me was debating on swapping the Celica. I want something that will outrun almost any other street car in my town. A 12sec street car that is more than cabable on a road course. I don't really want to face the fact that a 3sgte is a waste. Looks like I might just be another one of those guys in an STi. After driving that Cobalt, it reminded me how much I like to go fast. I haven't driven anything fast for over a year. I just put around in the Celica. And I've got to say, at 213whp, I was not impressed. I want something so fast I can feel it in my eyes as I take off.

IMO... the difference in road course times between a 250whp and 350whp FWD celica would be very minor depending on the complexity of the course (the more complex, the closer the times). I've said this before (and was flamed) in refrence to the Beams SS3 Celica versus a ST205 GT4. I said, actual power to the ground is meaningless if you cannot utilize it fully. 350whp... It'll be pretty hard to go full throttle anywhere besides straights. The more powerful the motor... the better throttle control you better have otherwise traction hurts. Not saying it's not possible... but the degree of difficulty increases exponentially. On the street... 250 or so whp is more than enough to smoke the sh!t out of most cars. Very rarely would you come across something that can compete... from a roll. Evo's and Sti's wouldn't be too much competition from a roll, IMO... against a FWD Celica with around 200-250whp. This is a reason why I've always prefered high powered high revving n/a cars when it comes to track racing. They are much much more predictable and can utilize nearly all of their available power anytime.

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- Bigmeanbulldog55   Test Drove Cobalt SS   Mar 1, 2006 - 5:19 PM
- - jgreening   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 1, 2006 - 4...   Mar 1, 2006 - 5:32 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 1, 2006 - 5:32...   Mar 1, 2006 - 5:43 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 1, 2006 - 3...   Mar 1, 2006 - 9:11 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(celicaST @ Mar 1, 2006 - 9:11 ...   Mar 1, 2006 - 9:26 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 2, 2006 - 2...   Mar 1, 2006 - 9:31 PM
- - Kwanza26   Umm... high horsepower/torque FWD cars have seriou...   Mar 1, 2006 - 9:27 PM
- - Supersprynt   I do believe that the Cobalt SS has boost kept low...   Mar 1, 2006 - 9:34 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   EDIT: This post was dirrected at Kwanza, not Supe...   Mar 1, 2006 - 9:40 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 2, 2006 - 2...   Mar 1, 2006 - 9:56 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 1, 2006 - 7...   Mar 1, 2006 - 9:57 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Mar 1, 2006 - 9:56 ...   Mar 1, 2006 - 10:07 PM
- - 97sccelica   imo any fwd car that is capable of going 12's...   Mar 1, 2006 - 11:20 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(97sccelica @ Mar 1, 2006 - 9:2...   Mar 1, 2006 - 11:28 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   I'm looking into STi's again now. Only th...   Mar 1, 2006 - 11:54 PM
- - creamed_corn   Cobalt SS's are like 3000lbs... no two door sp...   Mar 2, 2006 - 12:58 AM
- - dlx742   QUOTEI just want to build an absolute monster. I...   Mar 2, 2006 - 1:29 AM
- - 95CelicaST   There is a copy of Car&Driver down at work tha...   Mar 2, 2006 - 12:41 PM
|- - creamed_corn   QUOTE(95CelicaST @ Mar 2, 2006 - 1:4...   Mar 2, 2006 - 1:18 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   I would think its due to Honda just making a bette...   Mar 2, 2006 - 7:51 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Car and Driver is a good mag. I have a subscripti...   Mar 2, 2006 - 8:44 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 2, 2006 - 7...   Mar 2, 2006 - 10:12 PM
- - hitcachi   Car and Driver has always been known for that crap...   Mar 2, 2006 - 11:22 PM
- - celicaST   thought you might like these if you havnt seen the...   Mar 3, 2006 - 5:17 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   ^Very cool. I would paint the intercooler black t...   Mar 3, 2006 - 11:06 PM
|- - creamed_corn   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 4, 2006 - 1...   Mar 3, 2006 - 11:50 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Mar 3, 2006 - 11...   Mar 4, 2006 - 12:09 AM
- - lumbercis   If you are worried about traction, buy an 5th gen ...   Mar 4, 2006 - 3:07 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 3, 2006 - 9...   Mar 4, 2006 - 4:48 AM


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