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post Mar 26, 2006 - 5:40 PM
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Well, I was doing sub installs for long time and upgraded through about 4 amps and 3 subs in last 8 month.
Three of my friends kinda did the same thing. So here is a couple of things I learned from chaning from crappy amps to almost high end stuff.

>Most of subwoofers are good, for example lets take Alpine Type-E which is the cheapest sub from Alpine. My friend is pushing around 500Watt's through one of them things right now and it sound perfect. Most of the time, when you hear your subwoofer distording or not playing the right sound. Its not your subs falult, it your AMP. I went through a couple of amps from alpine to kenwood to JBL, its a huge difference. So please if you want to get a good sounding system get a cheap sub, but do spend as much as you can on the amp.

>Here's a good example, the firend that I was talking about who's pushing 500Watts through Type-E which is 200Watt RMS rated. His type-E sound as good as my JLW6v2 because he is using a Polk momo amp which is really clean.

>DELETED cuz I dont want people to blow their subs with unclean power smile.gif

>One more things that I've just learned is that if you like precise sounding subwoofer you will have to buy really good speakers, for example MbQuart (premium/reference) and you have to make a good kick panel for it, so that it can reproduce good mids. It makes the bass 200% cleaner, because most of the bass are tones that are produced by mids ( in first couple miliseconds when drum is hit, you don't hear the bass it self, what you get is a sound of a stick hitting the drum, same as when drum note is passing becaue it goes from low to mid). Because I didn't know of this, I upgraded a lot of components in my car and I never could get the bass to sound the way I wanted. Yesterday I found out that its all about the speakers.

>Please do not buy 4 speakers because the rear speakers are useless, most of the time they just mess up your stage and aligment. Instead of buying 4 speakers for $100 per pair, buy one pair for $200. For example you can get MbQuart Reference speakers for about $240 online and I am telling you, you will never want to go back to 4 speaker setup. If you dont believe me, why dont you go to this summer SPL/SQ shows and you will see what I am talking about.

Well thats it, if you have any questions ask smile.gif

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post Mar 26, 2006 - 6:23 PM
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QUOTE(Coomer @ Mar 26, 2006 - 6:04 PM) [snapback]413517[/snapback]

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>Oh here's another thing that I forgot to tell you, there almost no such thing as limitied Wattage (well unless you are pusing 2000Watts into 20watt speaker). For subs its all about clearity of your amp, and to get that clean voltage/sound you need to have a good HU + good RCA's + good power source (because if your system is taking too much amps from your Alternator it will start to distort).
(ON the Wattage thing, I am not telling you to run 1000Watts to 100Watt speaker. I am just trying to tell you that its posible to push 2000Watt's into a 12" W7 which is 850WattRMS)


Just out of curiosity, what made you come to this conclusion? Any scientific evidence or literature supporting this? Because I happen to think otherwise...I've read so many stories about good subs being powered by good amps in amazing stereo setups and blowing the subs.

OK let me reword this, let for example take my JLW6v2, its 400Watt RMS. I can easily push 700-800Watts to it and nothing will hapen to it but thats only because I have JBL amp. If you get one of them Kenwood amps and try doing the same thing the JL will be blowin in a matter of hours because kenwood signals are really crapy. It works both ways. I am not saying that people should do it because there is always going to be desturtion which will kill the sub. If you tuned audio you know the clipping point, that doesnt happen because speaker cant take anymore wattage, it happens because the amp or your HU is disturting and not giving out clean power.
Sorry for mispeling words, I am Russian if you didn't know smile.gif

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