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post Mar 21, 2006 - 11:54 PM
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Heytalktoryan



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well after getting hit and run my idea for the beams motor went down the drain, i figred while its in the shop i might as wel get it swapped w/ the 4age 20 valve silvertop,anyways my question is how much do these swaps tend to run? and where can i find a 4age silvertop engine?oh yeah and time is a problem too the swap cant any longer than a couple of weeks.I basically just want to know whatt i would need?(clip or engine better?dont see the point in the clip since its a celica not a corolla) for the swap and what all neeeds to be done.i loooked around but couldnt seem to find anything:( anyways thanks in advance
 
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post Mar 28, 2006 - 7:19 PM
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For what it's worth, I've acutally heard people complain after doing this swap. The engine makes more power in top end, but not for "normal" driving. Both engines make good power for what they are, but they're act very different, so make shure you're getting the one that matches your driving style.

The 4a-ge is a de-stroked version of our 7afe (1.6L vs our 1.8L), so they're noticibly less powerful in the low - mid range RPM (where we do MOST of our driving). The 4age has a VVT head, which is why it makes more HP, but it's at a much higher RPM. The end result being a car that will accellerate better once it reaches it's high RPM powerband, but feel less powerful during normal driving.

There's a 3rd option - a supercharged version of the 4age (forget the name) which makes much better power early on.

Just thought you should be aware before acutally doing your swap.

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- Heytalktoryan   4a-ge(20 valve)silvertop swap   Mar 21, 2006 - 11:54 PM
- - Bitter   http://www.toyotacelicaonline.com/celica1/7ahybrid...   Mar 22, 2006 - 12:19 AM
- - purplegt4   http://www.toyotacelicaonline.com/celica1/7ahybrid...   Mar 22, 2006 - 12:22 AM
- - Xpander   This should probably be in the Engine/Transmission...   Mar 22, 2006 - 1:02 AM
- - Kwanza26   I on the other hand think this swap is common enou...   Mar 22, 2006 - 1:23 AM
- - Heytalktoryan   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Mar 22, 2006 - 1:23...   Mar 22, 2006 - 7:58 AM
- - Heytalktoryan   http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-Celi...1QQcm...   Mar 22, 2006 - 8:05 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   Yeah the silvertop swap in the Celica ST isn't...   Mar 22, 2006 - 9:02 AM
|- - Heytalktoryan   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Mar 22, 2006 - 9:02...   Mar 22, 2006 - 9:28 AM
- - Bitter   what kind of power do the silver and black top swa...   Mar 22, 2006 - 10:46 AM
- - 95CelicaST   Silvertop has 160HP and Blacktop has 180 I think.   Mar 22, 2006 - 11:57 AM
|- - Coomer   QUOTE(95CelicaST @ Mar 22, 2006 - 8...   Mar 22, 2006 - 12:35 PM
- - Bitter   are those stock engine numbers or average post-swa...   Mar 22, 2006 - 1:37 PM
- - 95CelicaST   That is stock horsepower.   Mar 22, 2006 - 2:16 PM
- - Bitter   so what kind of power is being put down post swap?   Mar 22, 2006 - 2:29 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   I think the silvertops see around 130 whp. Typica...   Mar 22, 2006 - 4:00 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Mar 22, 2006 - 4:00...   Mar 22, 2006 - 4:20 PM
- - Jeremiah   For what it's worth, I've acutally heard p...   Mar 28, 2006 - 7:19 PM
- - j0e_p3t   you mean the 4agze. anywho... yeah, you have to re...   Mar 28, 2006 - 7:36 PM
|- - Jeremiah   QUOTE(j0e_p3t @ Mar 28, 2006 - 7:36 ...   Mar 28, 2006 - 7:48 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Yeah it's true, I've done quite a few silv...   Mar 29, 2006 - 8:08 AM
|- - Jeremiah   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Mar 29, 2006 - 8:08...   Mar 30, 2006 - 12:19 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(Jeremiah @ Mar 30, 2006 - 5:19...   Mar 30, 2006 - 8:21 AM
- - j0e_p3t   i want one. damn cali smog.   Mar 29, 2006 - 7:19 PM
- - Heytalktoryan   yeha i considered the 4agze swap but i ehard there...   Mar 29, 2006 - 8:38 PM
- - soulshadow   The only thing u need to replace to fit that motor...   Mar 30, 2006 - 9:55 AM
- - Cutrara   QUOTE(Jeremiah @ Mar 28, 2006 - 8:48...   Apr 3, 2006 - 12:34 PM


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