3sge engines, just wondering? Options

[qmoney10457]

Hey, I was just wondering how much hp does the 3sge engines come stock(not the "Beams" engines but the ones found in the early SSII's)? I'm just asking because I seen one for sale and I was just curious how fast they were. Thanx.

Quincy V.

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

BLADDER_MASTER, I have a few questions I'd like to ask since this is already shedding light on a pretty unknown subject, the 3rd gen 3SGE and you're the man to ask.

1.) What sort of setup did you start with, a full clip or just motor, ECU, harness, etc?

2.) What sort of wiring situation did you face?, i.e. a custom harness wired up or was alot of it plug and play with the chassis??

3.) Part availability? Maintainence issues of any kind?

Last but not least I'd love to see some videos in action, or I could just settle for some pics i suppose. Whatever you have I'd love to see it.


I'd appreciate any knowledge you can impart upon me. Thanks.

[BLADDER_MASTER]

BLADDER_MASTER, I have a few questions I'd like to ask since this is already shedding light on a pretty unknown subject, the 3rd gen 3SGE and you're the man to ask.

1.) What sort of setup did you start with, a full clip or just motor, ECU, harness, etc?

2.) What sort of wiring situation did you face?, i.e. a custom harness wired up or was alot of it plug and play with the chassis??

3.) Part availability? Maintainence issues of any kind?

Last but not least I'd love to see some videos in action, or I could just settle for some pics i suppose. Whatever you have I'd love to see it.


I'd appreciate any knowledge you can impart upon me. Thanks.

To begin with, I feel it's unknown because most people on this forum choose to fixate themselves to the BEAMS and 3S-GTE engines. I've been posting info on the 3rd gen 3S-GE for a long while. Look back at my posts and you'll see what I'm talking about. I keep trying to tell people to consider this engine, but yet the majority still go for the BEAMS. Yeah the BEAMS has the latest technology with the highest HP compared to previous 3S-GE's, but that comes with a price. Also, most people are HP and 1/4 mile freaks. So what engine is going to give them what they want? A 3S-GTE. I agree with Toyota and feel that the 3S-GTE should be left in an AWD or RWD platform and not in a FWD. You mix high HP on a FWD platform and all you're going to get is traction issues. Non-BEAMS 3S-GE's have also become unknown because of peoples failure to research. A lot of people don't bother doing research. You can't just go with what people say because most will tell you to get a 3S-GTE. Anywho, I just had to let that out since I've been holding it in for a while. If anyone feels different with what I said, feel free to comment. Now to answer your questions:

1. Basically I got the engine which included everything I needed to do the swap. People will tell you that you need a front clip, this is false. You can do this swap without a front clip, but if you want to play it safe, get a front clip. I've mentioned this before months ago I believe.

2. I took a 6GC engine and dropped it into a 5GC chassis. So I don't know if you could imagine the wiring nightmare I had to go through. But when looking at a USDM 6GC wiring harness, I noticed that a lot of the wiring colors matched the 3S-GE's harness. If you have a 6GC GT, swapping in the engine shouldn't be much hassle. You're still going to have to extend the harness. And I wouldn't be surprised if you have to re-wire a couple of wires. Get together with friends who are knowledgeable with wiring. Thats what I did. I got two of my Honda friends who have done numerous engine swaps and wiring to help me out with my mess.

3. Go to MR2OC.com. They have a thread where they list the part numbers for 3rd gen 3S-GTE and 3S-GE replacement parts. For Toyota oil filters, I just ask for a 95 MR2 Turbo's filter. For the O2 sensor, which you'll need to get for the swap, ask for a 95 MR2 Turbo's O2 sensor. Don't get the Bosch OEM O2 sensor, get the Bosch universal O2 sensor. When you see the price difference, you'll understand why.

I haven't taken any vids or pics lately. Right now the car isn't in the best condition. But you are free to ask me anymore questions you might have.