6th Gen Hater ?? Options

[Remy]

a 2.2 liter engine puttung out 135hp in a fwd car, pathetic from a performance standpoint (now and 10 years ago)

What I've read on another forum.

[creamed_corn]

How did we get started on Celica's not being able to handle?

The nice thing about the celica--and I haven't driven many other cars like this--is it's very predicatbale, controllable, and forgiving at its limits, and that's what makes it an excellent touring car. When you push most cars to their limits of handling, acceleration, braking, etc, they turn into wild, uncharacteristically mushy cars. I can pull through a 90 degree bend at +40mph and 4500 rpms and be utterly confident that I'll come out straight and hard in my celica. The only other cars I've had wheel time in that behave that well are the Mazda Miata and the second gen RX-7 (both RWD (hell, both Mazda's)). Say what you want, I've managed to stave off (and usually leave in the dust) Imprezas, Supras, Mini Cooper S's and Trans Ams on real world backroads (some of the cars were driven by self proclaimed "auto cross" diehards).

The 5S is reliable, has a great powerband for cornering, but otherwise it doesn't have much potential. Big Woop. You drive a civic; everyone thinks you're gay.