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> 5sfte rich at idle, 30% out at 1k rmp to keep 14.7 ish a/f
post May 15, 2006 - 12:14 AM
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my 5sfte is running rich at idle. I have to take out 30% of fuel with my safc in order to get the 13-14.7 ish a/f ratio.

set up:
255 lph pump
440cc injectors
everything else is stock

What could be causing the problem????

could having the engine retared to much at idle be the cause of the ecu not being able to adjust to a rich mixture?????

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post May 18, 2006 - 9:44 PM
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with the stock map, it basicly wont run
yea art, thats the 315s, untuned.


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post May 18, 2006 - 9:57 PM
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QUOTE(presure2 @ May 18, 2006 - 9:44 PM) [snapback]435542[/snapback]

with the stock map, it basicly wont run
yea art, thats the 315s, untuned.


Quick story: When I dynoed my car, some of you may remember that it slid off the dyno and ruined the front right tire. The shop agreed to replace my tire and not charge me for the dyno session. I gave them the rim, put the donut on and picked up the tire and rim a couple days later. When I went to pick it up, they had just put a C5 vette with a newly installed procharger on the rollers so I decided to stick around and watch what kind of number it would make. The tuner told me that the owner was coming over to be there for the tuning session. He said, well I will just start without him (At the time, I thought, I wouldn't like it if the guy started tuning on my car if I said I wanted to be there when it was tuned but continued to observe). On the first pull, the guy took the engine all the way to redline without watching the a/f and the car put down about 550 whp. Then, the guy got out of the car and started pushing buttons on the computer and he said "oh, that went lean". I asked what the a/f got up to and he said 22! The owner shows up and the tuner says to him: We did a test pull and the car is a little lean so we will need to add some fuel before we go further. He never mentions the figure or how close he came to popping the engine. It was right then that I decided that I would never take my car back there. Moral of the story: be present during tuning and always monitor your a/f ratios and be prepared to cut the run if necessary.

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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.

Posts in this topic
- urbandork   5sfte rich at idle   May 15, 2006 - 12:14 AM
- - penguininatux   QUOTE(urbandork @ May 15, 2006 - 12...   May 15, 2006 - 12:18 AM
- - presure2   why are you so worried about being rich at idle?   May 15, 2006 - 5:14 AM
|- - urbandork   QUOTE(presure2 @ May 15, 2006 - 10:1...   May 15, 2006 - 12:59 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(urbandork @ May 15, 2006 - 1:5...   May 15, 2006 - 1:23 PM
|- - urbandork   QUOTE(presure2 @ May 15, 2006 - 6:23...   May 15, 2006 - 2:17 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(urbandork @ May 15, 2006 - 3:1...   May 15, 2006 - 3:32 PM
- - penguininatux   This is kinda wierd. Urban. You're fuel injec...   May 15, 2006 - 5:16 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(penguininatux @ May 15, 2006 - 6...   May 15, 2006 - 5:36 PM
- - shin   my set up's rich too so i have the same proble...   May 16, 2006 - 12:37 AM
|- - urbandork   QUOTE(shin @ May 16, 2006 - 5:37 AM)...   May 16, 2006 - 11:11 AM
- - presure2   yup, pretty much. i must admit, tho, ill take the ...   May 16, 2006 - 11:29 AM
- - penguininatux   ahh.. i still dont understand why u can run the 46...   May 18, 2006 - 9:08 PM
- - lagos   wow, you were "blow up the motor" type o...   May 18, 2006 - 9:15 PM
- - CheesyLobster   all i know is that i have a smaller motor, 550cc i...   May 18, 2006 - 9:43 PM
- - presure2   with the stock map, it basicly wont run yea art, t...   May 18, 2006 - 9:44 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(presure2 @ May 18, 2006 - 9:44...   May 18, 2006 - 9:57 PM
- - penguininatux   but anyways. do u think i should go with the 3sgt...   May 18, 2006 - 11:21 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(penguininatux @ May 18, 2006 - 11...   May 19, 2006 - 1:29 AM
- - presure2   this is the last time i will post this. GET THAT M...   May 19, 2006 - 4:41 AM
- - orvillescelica   penguininatux, i saw that you live here in Seattle...   May 19, 2006 - 9:20 AM
- - WALKER   Sorry for bringing this thread back to life, but I...   May 29, 2006 - 3:46 PM
- - presure2   you wanna be no leaner than 11.5:1 under boost. a...   May 29, 2006 - 3:50 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   I was just thinking today of a possible solution t...   May 31, 2006 - 10:51 PM


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