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The problem with hydrolysis is still this: It takes more energy to separate oxygen from hydrogen in water than burning the hydrogen could ever create, so any hydrogen fuel cells would need to be plugged in at night (or plugged in some where) to perform the hydrolysis.
Its not really a problem with anyone bieng in bed with anyone anywhere. Its a simple physics principle: There is no such thing as a free lunch. (or, the greater number of transfers of energy, the less effecient the system). And, since most areas use non-renewable power sources for the electrical energy (In CA I think some 65% or so of electrical energy comes from non-renewable sources) regardless of if you have an electrical vehicle, a hydrogen fuel cell, or a standard internal combustion engine, all are using fossil fuels (and actually the electric cars are less effecient, gleaning about 11% of the origianl potential energy from the fossil fuels, while and internal combustion engine gleans about 17% of the original potential energy from fossil fuels.) So, until fossil fuels are so expensive that solar wind and hydroelectric become cheaper sources of energy, or environmental regulations let up to all nuclear power more feasible, prices of powering vehicles will continue to go up. If anyone is interested, I did a study of the efficiency and energy loss of various forms of transport for a class a few years ago. The data is all from 2004-2005 but its still a good essay if anyone is interested. But, besides all that, that torch in the video looks awesome. -------------------- ![]() psalm 69 |
Supersprynt Powered by Water May 24, 2006 - 9:33 PM
ILuvMyCelica95 wow! that's awesome!!! May 24, 2006 - 9:52 PM
j0e_p3t crazy... i wonder how fast a water-charged car can... May 24, 2006 - 11:07 PM
bigal004321 well they are hybrid so it would prolly be water u... May 24, 2006 - 11:35 PM
hitcachi and.................................................. May 25, 2006 - 12:28 AM
x_itchy_b_x invest stock in that company now... May 25, 2006 - 1:04 AM
defgeph Awesome. May 25, 2006 - 1:15 AM
BlackSTX Technology to make power by separating the hydroge... May 25, 2006 - 1:04 PM
Supersprynt I dont think automakers are in bed with oil compan... May 25, 2006 - 2:15 PM
hitcachi QUOTE(BlackSTX @ May 25, 2006 - 1:04... May 25, 2006 - 4:07 PM
Benevolence Yeah, don't get too excited just yet. May 25, 2006 - 5:15 PM
easternpiro1 you guys should see the nice little geek fight tha... May 26, 2006 - 12:57 PM
BBoYRuGGeD wow i wonder if he has a grand daughter so i can m... May 26, 2006 - 2:58 PM
celicurr ha! ya, I think that's on google video or ... May 28, 2006 - 11:19 PM![]() ![]() |
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