My plan, boost me up scotty! Options

[frosty]

Alright, I have spent many a months and countless nights thinking about what I want to do with my celicas power and have come to a conclusion. I would like to go the route of the 5s-gte hybrid but don't have all the funds needed to go this route now. I really want to go boost and after reading and studying many of the 5s-Fte build-up and the mr2's builds, I decided I will walk this path. One thing that also makes it nice is that if in the future if I want to go the 5s-gte way then I will already have a multitude of the parts on hand for that project. I also have support from my wife as well. The only draw back is that our hvac brokedown and we're having to buy a new one. I do have a bunch of music equipment and other items around the house to sell wich will allow us to be able to pay the hvac off in a few months and begin the fTe build.

Lookout guys! A new 5s-fte is cooming your way this year!

[playr158]

a 5sgte is a lot of money.
a totally custom project thats not for the faint of heart.
best suited for somone with deep pockets and VERY high HP goals
NEEDS a stand alone ecu
would be pretty silly to do without also upgrading the turbo to something massive.
the motor has to be fully rebuild and upgraded ($$$$$$) . you dont just slap on another head.
etc....


the reason why its overkill, is that, unless you are shotting for some crazy power, you can meet all of your goals with a 5sfTE or 3sgte swap.

whooooooo, calm down now

I'm going with the 5s-fte build. If you read my first post word for word you would have gotten that already. You would also have read that I said I don't have the funds for the head swap version. I know it cost losts of $$$. DUH! I've been doing my research and believe me, I KNOW you don't just slap on the ge head. There has to be internal work done to the block, cr changes, adjustments here and there, and yes, a stand-alone ecu, all which cost $$$.

This is why I chose to go with the 5s-fte, it closer to my price range, there are few things to mess with, and it will suffice my hp needs for now.

In the future, I plan on swaping for the ge head and with that there will be some really high hp goals since I plan on using the car not as a daily driver. (either that, or buy another celica to do the 5s-gte build and keep the 5s-fte as a daily driver)

I understand what is what on this matter. I've got many a months of research under my belt and plan on getting more. I'm also seeking a second job to help pay for my expensive hobby. So please, read the full post before commenting and see that I'm not some punk in over my head.

-thanks

sorry. your right, i didnt fully read your 1st post. i just woke up and skimed through it, and was thinking....wait, what one is he trying to do?

my 2nd post wasnt directed at you. it was more directed at player, who seems to think that a 5sgte is something cheap, easy, and a good idea with a ct26...lol.

if you (not player) understand the cost involoved and are looking to build a high HP monster, then more power to you! i would love to see it happen. in the mean time good luck with the 5sfTe. im sure youll be very happy with it.

i know damn well how much it cost....don't think yourself so arrogant..
and none of my post say..its cheap or easy....i'm mearly saying you can't just rule it out cause it cost some money...and i'm sure you can run a ct26 on a 5sgte no problems(not saying this is the best option)...it all depends where your goals are and wat the person building wants to do....just every time you make a post about someone even considering a build of sumthing not commonly done...

personnally i like to see someone trying to go off the beat'n path for a change....A+ to frosty for having an outta the box goal

This post has been edited by playr158: Jun 16, 2006 - 1:46 PM

[jgreening]

i'm pretty sure you can run a ct26 on a 5sgte no problems...it all depends where your goals are and wat the person building wants to do

But anyone who wanted to do that would be either ill-informed or stupid. Art's point is that although you could take a bunch of money and make a 5sgte with a ct-26, you could make a more reliable and more powerful car with less money using a different platform. His posts are right on point and your blind cheerleading only serves to mislead people into heading down an ill-fated path regardless of whether it is based on mistake or ignorance.

[playr158]

i'm pretty sure you can run a ct26 on a 5sgte no problems...it all depends where your goals are and wat the person building wants to do

But anyone who wanted to do that would be either ill-informed or stupid. Art's point is that although you could take a bunch of money and make a 5sgte with a ct-26, you could make a more reliable and more powerful car with less money using a different platform. His posts are right on point and your blind cheerleading only serves to mislead people into heading down an ill-fated path regardless of whether it is based on mistake or ignorance.

we all know you could make a more reliable and powerful platform with a different motor thats not the point...i mean for god sakes look at nik's motor 14k? for 300hp? your going to tell me he couldn't have used a 3sgte(or other) and added in 14k to make more?.......i'm not telling people wat turbo to use(i merely used it as an example for no requirement of a massive turbo) or wat motor to build...my post simply stated to not knock out the 5sgte option just because it takes a deeper pocket and more work...

This post has been edited by playr158: Jun 16, 2006 - 1:51 PM

[nik]

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we all know you could make a more reliable and powerful platform with a different motor thats not the point...i mean for god sakes look at nik's motor 14k? for 300hp? your going to tell me he couldn't have used a 3sgte(or other) and added in 14k to make more?.......i'm not telling people wat turbo to use(i merely used it as an example for no requirement of a massive turbo) or wat motor to build...my post simply stated to not knock out the 5sgte option just because it takes a deeper pocket and more work...
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to fully build any motor its expensive and yes for now im only at 312 whp but with more time on the dyno those numbers will improve i dont know many cars that are over 400whp that run 92 or 93 pump gas and that was my first goal to get 350 whp on pump gas and go from there if i had it to do again would i have built a 3sgte probably not

furthermore i could have put on a big t4 turbo and not spooled till 5000 and made more power all it would be would be top end numbers

also 6k of that total was just labor on alot of the custom parts p&p etc

in the end i choose to build this motor

so if someone goes and spends half that and has some 500 whp 3sgte good for them